Janus
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For obvious reasons, you only need one party to consent to the use of FRO. Otherwise, almost no payors would ever consent to use it.
Study shows how child support guidelines punish those who pay support
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For obvious reasons, you only need one party to consent to the use of FRO. Otherwise, almost no payors would ever consent to use it.
tunnelight
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Nor they should. What they should do is voluntarily pay the correct amount and offer it on a final basis. if ex wants to move forward to a hearing on the sole issue of whether or not it should be enforced through FRO.. let them be your guest.
Served my order terminating my child support and withdrawing from FRO to case contact with such joy and relief. You have no idea. e-transfers are my new FRO once I am working again (IF I end up earning more than her) EX won't find a lawyer to file a motion for it just to be enforced through FRO. Heck she couldn't even find a lawyer to help her try and prove me intentionally unemployed after her 2nd lawyer canned her. Maybe after she pays off what she still owes her first lawyer... but that's not my problem really..
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You don’t have to file a motion to have CS enforced by FRO. If you have an Order or an Agreement filed with the court all one party has to do is file the paperwork with FRO and pay the $50 re-instatement fee to get enforcement. Even if a motion is needed to change CS amounts it is pretty simple and doesn’t require a lawyer.
Janus
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No hearing required. If your order is registered with the court, it can be enforced by FRO.
Assuming recipient agrees, any form of payment works. If recipient does not agree, she can ask FRO to enforce and your etransfers will now go to FRO instead of directly to the recipient.
It's not a motion. It is possible that your ex is clueless which would be a good thing for you, but your ideas on how FRO works are mostly incorrect.
Two separate issues:
1) Inputting income
That's a motion. If she wants to prove that you are intentionally unemployed she would need a judge to agree to that one. She does not necessarily need a lawyer
2) Hard for her to get a lawyer
As you said, not your problem
Either way, neither issue has anything to do with FRO
tunnelight
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We already had a motion on the issue of imputing income to me, in which she unsuccessfully self represented.
FRO can't do anything because the court order they have for us states no child support payable by either party. (Thanks to SHARED CUSTODY)
FRO can't do anything because the court order they have for us states no child support payable by either party. (Thanks to SHARED CUSTODY)
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For me, when our daughter lived with my ex I paid on time, if not early every single time.
2.5 years ago, custody changed and no order for support was drawn up. in January on a settlement conference we settled the case and my ex and I agreed to a lower amount of CS monthly so that I didn't have to fight. I filed with FRO because I knew she would never pay. To date she has not paid, FRO has a federal garnishment which means that I get bits and pieces of money here and there, nothing close to the amount of CS that is ordered. I found out that Ontario Works (welfare) and Disability are not garnished from FRO, they can take everything else but not those 2. So while she goes further into debt each month, I do not have to chase her around for it. I had a good laugh with the worker as after our daughter finishes school if my ex does not pay she will still owe that debt, and if she stays on Ontario Works or disability they probably will not be able to collect until my ex goes to collect old age pension, so fingers crossed that we both make it that long. Might make for a good downpayment for our daughter to buy a house lol.
2.5 years ago, custody changed and no order for support was drawn up. in January on a settlement conference we settled the case and my ex and I agreed to a lower amount of CS monthly so that I didn't have to fight. I filed with FRO because I knew she would never pay. To date she has not paid, FRO has a federal garnishment which means that I get bits and pieces of money here and there, nothing close to the amount of CS that is ordered. I found out that Ontario Works (welfare) and Disability are not garnished from FRO, they can take everything else but not those 2. So while she goes further into debt each month, I do not have to chase her around for it. I had a good laugh with the worker as after our daughter finishes school if my ex does not pay she will still owe that debt, and if she stays on Ontario Works or disability they probably will not be able to collect until my ex goes to collect old age pension, so fingers crossed that we both make it that long. Might make for a good downpayment for our daughter to buy a house lol.
arabian
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At some point in time your ex should lose her drivers' license and passport. Then you might see some activity.
If your ex has never worked then she won't get CPP.
People like your ex are drag on society. Keep tabs on her though - she's likely to work under-the-table at some point and bank accounts can be garnished. Ask FRO when they go after the drivers' license. If she doesn't work she doesn't need one.
If your ex has never worked then she won't get CPP.
People like your ex are drag on society. Keep tabs on her though - she's likely to work under-the-table at some point and bank accounts can be garnished. Ask FRO when they go after the drivers' license. If she doesn't work she doesn't need one.
Fairly confident she does not have a license (doesnt stop her from driving). FRO said they can only passively go after her because she is on Ontario Works or Disability. So they can only do a federal garnishment for now, and not take further enforcement action... I forgot about her likely not getting CPP..... I was really hoping for that day and figured I was just playing the long game lol.
arabian
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Usually one of the first things maintenance enforcement agencies put into place is a personal property registry. Make sure that is on file. Ex buys a car and then tries to dispose of it... it can be payday for you.
You never know. People get lazy and complacent. Tax return refunds and provincial tax incentives. You won't get rich but can be assured she will be pissed that she doesn't get it.
I don't get these people who have kids and then don't contribute to their upbringing.
You never know. People get lazy and complacent. Tax return refunds and provincial tax incentives. You won't get rich but can be assured she will be pissed that she doesn't get it.
I don't get these people who have kids and then don't contribute to their upbringing.
What is the worst/mildly humorous (if I can't laugh what am I doing in this world) is that when the roles were reversed, she demanded child support early and held it over my head and denied access if it was not several days before it was due (I was never late, not once and paid full table amount). When the roles are reversed, she hates the idea of paying so badly.
I will check into the personal property registry. She always seems to use other peoples vehicles but you never know. I have a suspicion that many creditors are after her. When I got the small amount from her doing her tax return, I know she would have been so upset.
tunnelight
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Ex buys car under boyfriends name. Problem solved.
Because it doesn't suit you and your agenda. Like a lot of mothers (thank G-d not all) you like your gravy train.