Private Member’s Bill C-422 - Equal parenting (Mr. Velacott)

Wait, what, huh?

Please keep this thread on track. I have stickied it and kept it active because it is an important political issue.

If you want to discuss feminism then try to keep it at least maginally related to Mr. Velacott's bill.

As a side note, this is a private member's bill and as such it is not Conservative Party policy. If you are voting to support Velacott, hopefully you are in his riding. Otherwise you are not really having an effect.

Of course, contact your local MP and request that this become official party policy.
 
Feminism is there to fight for special treatment and opportunities for women, and only for women. The entire premise is that women are at a disadvantage over men and need more advantages... they are 100% against anything that would give power or advantage to men because as a general rule they believe men already have all of the power and advantages.

In moderation it was probably a good thing, but taken too far it has led to widespread misandry and injustice.

No one can even agree what "equality" means. Is equality of opportunity the same as equality of outcomes? Simple example:

-500 men and 500 women are admitted to a fire fighter training program. There is equality of opportunity.

-400 men and 100 women pass the demanding physical testing required to complete the training program.

So feminists have argued that this is sexist. So instead, women pass a seperate test which is only half as demanding as the one that men pass. With the new test, now 400 women pass. Equality of outcome, feminists (might) be happy. They will say female fire fighters are at least as good or better than male ones.

...Now you're unconscious in a burning building and fire fighters are coming to rescue you. Which one would you rather have there to save you? What if only women were working that shift?

Not really equality of outcome, because now you've died in a house fire.
 
Another very relevant point about gender equality and opportunity. My ex studied in university, she applied for and was admitted to an exclusive program with very limited enrollment. Out of the 12000 applicants, only 2000 are accepted.

She completes the program and goes to work in her field. For less than one year... at which point she decides she wants a baby, she goes on maternity leave. She decides to stay at home, she never returns to work in her field and opens a home daycare a few years later.

This is going to be a sore point, but because of the "equal opportunity" she caused at least one other person to not be admitted to her program, to not graduate, to not be able to work in the field that she abandoned less than a year after graduating. Due to equality of opportunity now there are TWO fewer people using those credentials to benefit society.

So is equality always the best policy?
 
Look, sorry, this is not relevant and I again ask that this thread be reserved for discussion of the parliamentary bill.
 
I didn't see your post before I started a new thread, but I think it's a good first step. It isn't as concrete as C-422, but would stop some of the initial shenanigans we often see.
 
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