Making sure im on the right path.

oh boy do i have a nifty suprise.

since it was raining they called and asked me to visit me instead. when they popped up they listened to my side of the story.

they also asked me of i ever witnessed them intoxicated. i mentioned that the grnad mother has a drinking problem and drinks alot of wine and hard licker.

they said it was consistant to what they saw at the place of residence(they actually went there?). I completely forgot about that and while every week of the visit i was looking at all the alcohol and didnt even make the connection. IDIOT IDIOT IDIOT!!!!

They told me they feel the need to investigate. They said they would contact me in the future if they need anything else.
 
I am not understanding this... you feel you now have the upper hand because the grandmother drinks? Do you have any evidence that she is a harm to the child? Does she have any DUIs? Convictions? or such to prove... just because there is liquor in the house does not mean she "has a drinking problem"...

Heck... I have 15 bottles of wine in my house, along with some other liquor... and I rarely drink (I work in a Resort Community and the Italians are very giving in that manner). I just hope you don't feel because you "state" she has a drinking problem and you forgot about this (seems fishy), you now think you have a better chance.
 
This sounds like a bunch of hooey to me somehow. Are the grandparents applying for custody? They actually said to you that they think the grandmother has a drinking problem? Not only is that unprofessional on their part, it is unlikely to me that it happened in the way that you have presented it. Did they bring up the drinking or did you? Who initiated that particular part of the conversation?

Unless the granny was swilling wine and clearly intoxicated when they did a home visit, I have a hard time grasping this. Am I missing something?
 
arabian said:
This sounds like a bunch of hooey to me somehow. Are the grandparents applying for custody? They actually said to you that they think the grandmother has a drinking problem? Not only is that unprofessional on their part, it is unlikely to me that it happened in the way that you have presented it. Did they bring up the drinking or did you? Who initiated that particular part of the conversation?

Unless the granny was swilling wine and clearly intoxicated when they did a home visit, I have a hard time grasping this. Am I missing something?
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if you are missing it then I am missing it to. I have 3 bottles of wine in the fridge, a couple small bottles of stuff for shooters and there are some bottles of sminoff ice. Does that make me a lush?? Considering the last time I had anything to drink was last Christmas.
 
SynGreis said:
oh boy do i have a nifty suprise.

since it was raining they called and asked me to visit me instead. when they popped up they listened to my side of the story.

they also asked me of i ever witnessed them intoxicated. i mentioned that the grnad mother has a drinking problem and drinks alot of wine and hard licker.

they said it was consistant to what they saw at the place of residence(they actually went there?). I completely forgot about that and while every week of the visit i was looking at all the alcohol and didnt even make the connection. IDIOT IDIOT IDIOT!!!!

They told me they feel the need to investigate. They said they would contact me in the future if they need anything else.
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Dear Sovereign SynGreis:

There are no OACP gurus of family law. You won't find some magical loop hole in the family law system that will win you anything, say like a 260,000$ house on $500,000 worth of land apparently.

If you were assaulted the Peace Officers whom are paid by the citizens of Canada will properly investigate the matter and if the CAS is involved they will insure the child is safe.

You will be very surprised to know that an allegation is just that... An allegation. You haven't "won" anything. In fact, the whole situation is a massive loss to the child that this is happening. My deepest sympathies for your child who is caught up in all this and my hopes that the child is safe.

Good Luck!
Tayken
 
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did everyone missed the part that the grand mother drinks? i seen her personally drink wine, not lately as i am only there for 2 hours a week. But when her friends and family is there, you betcha shes cracking out the bottles. When i used to be going there quite often right up until my ex told me she was pregnant almost everytime i went to her place, the grand mother was cracking out the wine with her friends and drinking at noon.

I know an allegation is just that an allegation. Hence why im not counting on it, but i know it will go into the report for cas and i can use that to work in my favor.
 
the mother lives with her parents the grand mother is there most of the time. she drinks and is a loud and clumsy drunk. She is also a parent to the child.

Past conduct

(3) A person’s past conduct shall be considered only,

(a) in accordance with subsection (4); or

(b) if the court is satisfied that the conduct is otherwise relevant to the person’s ability to act as a parent. 2006, c. 1, s. 3 (1).
 
SynGreis said:
the mother lives with her parents the grand mother is there most of the time. she drinks and is a loud and clumsy drunk. She is also a parent to the child.

Past conduct

(3) A person’s past conduct shall be considered only,

(a) in accordance with subsection (4); or

(b) if the court is satisfied that the conduct is otherwise relevant to the person’s ability to act as a parent. 2006, c. 1, s. 3 (1).
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Again, I repeat... what is your point?
 
also i never said i was winning or i won.

the grand mother drinks and had problems in the past hence the citation i posted.

the grand mother has the child residing in her home along with the mother. hence the drinking effects the environment. seriously dont get whats the big deal here.

i obviously know that i cannot use this as evidence, hence why ill wait until the mother is called to the stand. i am only there for 2 hours so i doubt the grand mother will risk anything while im there.
 
SynGreis said:
o.0

did everyone missed the part that the grand mother drinks? i seen her personally drink wine, not lately as i am only there for 2 hours a week. But when her friends and family is there, you betcha shes cracking out the bottles. When i used to be going there quite often right up until my ex told me she was pregnant almost everytime i went to her place, the grand mother was cracking out the wine with her friends and drinking at noon.
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And what law is the grandmother violating? Did the grandmother pass out? Become enraged? Has the grandmother poured alcohol down the throat of the child? Endangered the child?

BTW: You made an odd comment "oh boy do i have a nifty suprise."

Alcoholism is not a great allegation in family law. Just because you alledge it doesn't mean it is true.

Where is Slughead10 when you need him? Honestly he would be the best person to explain this all. Yes, Slughead10, I don't hate you. In fact, I think you would be the right person to set some needed "reality" around the challenges of alcohol and the use of it before the family courts. (If you are reading this.)

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SynGreis said:
.I know an allegation is just that an allegation. Hence why im not counting on it, but i know it will go into the report for cas and i can use that to work in my favor.
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"oh boy do i have a nifty suprise."

Not much of a "nifty s-u-r-p-r-i-s-e"... Not going to get you anything other than the fact that you are good at hurling allegations of alcohol abuse.

If the nifty surprise isn't an unsubstantiated allegation of alcohol abuse against the grandmother... What is the surprise. We are all waiting to hear it!

I for one am very interested in how I can use real estate law to get free land.
 
SynGreis said:
i obviously know that i cannot use this as evidence, hence why ill wait until the mother is called to the stand. i am only there for 2 hours so i doubt the grand mother will risk anything while im there.
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Do you realize how far away you are from Trial in any matter?

2 years basically... Unless something serious happens and you find yourself on the trial list faster.

I highly recommend you read this case law:

Bruni v. Bruni, 2010 ONSC 6568 (CanLII)
Date: 2010-11-29
Docket: 384/07
URL: CanLII - 2010 ONSC 6568 (CanLII)
Citation: Bruni v. Bruni, 2010 ONSC 6568 (CanLII)

Really read it... Don't just pass it by:

In fact, they were represented by lawyers through 12 court attendances over two years (according to the endorsement section of the continuing record), during the babysitting phase of the proceedings and before the heavy lifting began. This case should have been identified by the lawyers in the beginning as one that was impossible to settle and pushed quickly to trial, without the endless toing and froing present in typical cases. The legal fees for the 12 attendances would have been better spent on the trial.
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Don't miss the foot notes...

I can't wait to read your case law some day. I can only hope you are in the Niagara area and go before the Honourable Mr. Justice Quinn.
 
asked bonnie the trial coordinator, she says on average with the current load 2-3 months but a judge CAN override it if he deems to be required and set it for a sooner available date. She mentioned that 2-3 is just a guideline in hopes that parties can settle outside of court.

i don't live in or near Niagara falls. the nifty surprise was only to me, i took it as a surprise because i did not expect that. I know the allegations are unfounded, but i still got time to trial.

Also all the allegations she claims will have no substance and no proof at all, assuming they happened.

also about your references about my land claims and so on and with the attacks of what you might claim the "freeman movement" please exclude that and remain on topic, its appreciated.
 
CanLII - 2010 ONSC 6568 (CanLII)

the link you sent me i found a fantastic part tayken.

"[209] The parental alienation[47] in this case reflects an intent by Catherine to destroy the relationship between Taylor and Larry; it is shocking conduct. It also amounts to a hideous repudiation of the relationship between Catherine and Larry as co-parents of Taylor. The harm here probably is irreparable. Certainly, it is extremely serious at best. How could such conduct not satisfy the requirements of s. 33(10), stringent as they are?"

this is a great find, its appreciated tayken as always. 1 dollar a month seriously???
 
MCDreamy: lol. This thread is giving me some entertainment, I'm ashamed to admit.

Google: SNL corking room (it's an old Saturday Night Live episode w/Janet Jackson in it.) IDK why, but it just 'popped' into my head. ;)
 
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