Making sure im on the right path.

its the way i queued up the question. i apologize if i mislead you. ofcourse that would obviously be one of the issues. a claim is just a claim until the claimant can prove it. this doesn't mean i did it and force the claiming to prove it im just saying it doesn't mean anything until there are some sort of record being made or whatever the case may be.
 
SynGreis said:
i removed the names.

Im wondering if a notice of motion emergency can fall under the guidelines to change the venue of visitation. i could argue that conflicts take place and that i wish to avoid any conflict so therefor i recommend gradual access taking place originally at a daycare.

although it may not be confirmed, but i could also argue that they are attempting to provoke me into a reaction or an act of violence and i wish to avoid that.
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Most likely NOT, read my main thread on what constitutes urgency before the court:

http://www.ottawadivorce.com/forum/f3/dont-panic-what-defines-urgency-before-court-13291/

To regurgitate the judge's comments in relation to your "evidence" in this thread:

I urge you to reconsider how you are planning to proceed and go to the case conference with several proposals for resolution that might allow you and their mother to create some semblance of peace this child.
 
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firhill said:
Reading into your post, it sounds like you're stating that even though what she says is true, she just can't prove it.

To be honest, if what she she claims isn't true, why wouldn't you just state that it never happened and therefore cannot be proven rather than ask the (bolded) rhetorical question?
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Don't "cross examine" in affidavits is basically what firhill is stating. You pontificate in an affidavit and you will look stupid.
 
tayken can you reword your second post please.

i wasn't holding my breathe for the motion. I will redo my brief and i will ensure that a change in the motion reflect that the visit should taker place somewhere else. This would benefit all parties. but thank you tayken i intent to do this.
 
just noticed my topic was moved.

so CAS just called me ago about an incident that happened at the start of october where the grand father pushed me and the cops were called.

so now i have to deal with them tomorrow at 10am to get my side of the story.

coudl they very well trying to get something pinned against me? i never had to deal with CAS.
 
fair enough, got a comment for cas phone call?

they claim they have a case opened because of a police report, which was called into on oct 5th. does it honestly take that long for cas to be called and to call me.
 
Without details of the incident, and what was reported to the police, it is impossible to answer your question.

If the incident, as reported, was involving the child, the police may have felt obligated to report this to the CAS. Certainly it can take several weeks to work through the process.

Or, the grandfather may have made a report directly to the CAS and referenced the police report. It certainly takes that long or usually longer to get the police report.
 
Thank you mess, i never dealt with CAS before so i am unsure as to how they would proceed or their inner workings, again i suspect the malicious intent to attempt to commit parental alienation at any and all times.

I also have reason to believe they are trying anything to make me appear violent.

the police incident went something like this. father assaulted me while holding the child because i was asking why the respondent wasn't there and that the order did no specify. The father began to vent frustration as to how i am costing them thousands of dollars and that im messing the flow in the family. he also mentioned that the respondent does not wish to see me at all. he started to talk about something else but it was unintelligible. then just out of nowhere he pushed me while holding the child. he told me to leave and so i immediately left. after that i simply called the cops and from there is history.

If you can could you give general details on what would happen at this meeting.
 
SynGreis said:
Thank you mess, i never dealt with CAS before so i am unsure as to how they would proceed or their inner workings, again i suspect the malicious intent to attempt to commit parental alienation at any and all times.

I also have reason to believe they are trying anything to make me appear violent.

the police incident went something like this. father assaulted me while holding the child because i was asking why the respondent wasn't there and that the order did no specify. The father began to vent frustration as to how i am costing them thousands of dollars and that im messing the flow in the family. he also mentioned that the respondent does not wish to see me at all. he started to talk about something else but it was unintelligible. then just out of nowhere he pushed me while holding the child. he told me to leave and so i immediately left. after that i simply called the cops and from there is history.

If you can could you give general details on what would happen at this meeting.
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I'm confused - he was holding the child? Or were you holding the child? Who called the police? Him or you?

Generally they will ask you questions about that day to get your side of the story
 
Hi Tired.

Yes he was holding the child when he pushed me. Should he used anymore force i would have been tripped by the couch and hit m head on the steel railing by the stairs.

I called the police. The Grand Father is not small, 280 pounds ripped. Biker dude.

Yes they called me to get my side of the story. I just want to know if there is anything i should be alarmed.
 
Thanks. Its just that the stuff i deal with i got into the habit of questioning EVERYTHING. I do not like suprises, but thanks for the heads up.

Its tomorrow at 10am.
 
Holy mother of purple cows...

This whole thread has made me sooooo very grateful that I have the ex I do...even on a bad day!

I feel very, very, very, very sorry for the child that is in the middle of all of this!
 
"Holy mother of purple cows...

This whole thread has made me sooooo very grateful that I have the ex I do...even on a bad day! "

** it made me think of a few things, but nothing to do w/ex..

Yes it's quite an action packed thread. Hard to tell what's what here a lot of the time.
 
sounds like your altercation with your ex father-in-law was just that, an "altercation." Doesn't sound like it was worth investigating any sooner. Police triage calls and this one sounds more and more like positioning on child custody. Cops are trying to save people.

Dealing with any judicial body requires you to tell the truth. It's really quite simple.
 
yes indeed, got lots of good information in it relating to procedurals and other tidbits of info.

Ill let you guys know how tomorrows visit with CAS goes.
 
can you elaborate on what you mean by positioning on child custody?

ofcourse i was going to tell the truth, i just dont want surprises....
 
If events took place as you state, then the police involved CAS as they are mandated to do when a minor child is involved. Since you called the police, hence it is by your involviing them (b/c of the incident) that CAS was contacted. And so you will inform CAS of exactly what occured that day.

The "positioning " thing doesn't really apply here on the part of the ex, or her parents in terms of CAS b/c they did not report the incident thereby involving CAS, you did.

At any rate, remain calm, speak clearly and recount the events of Oct 5th in sequence. Do not make any wild allegations or infuse any extra drama. Remain calm, be clear and simply state what occured without any conjecture.

Conjecture: "noun 1. the formation or expression of an opinion or theory without sufficient evidence for proof. 2. an opinion or theory so formed or expressed; guess; speculation." (Dictionary.com)
 
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