Making sure im on the right path.

[DowntroddenDad]

Thanks janus, like i said several times i have no intention to do marijuana around my child for any reason

people can interpret however they want, but they cannot say i lied. IF telling the truth is a crime or it hurts feelings, then i am guilty to that fact. Call me an asshole and see how much i care. Ghandi had no filter, he did not bite his tongue, and look at what happened to him, died but left a legacy. Is he a child?

c.1 is the same for ghandi.

d.1 if justice is not done and family law is not fair, then that is lunacy. Justice is done, but not by way of courts. Family law is fair if done correctly.

Surely you aren't comparing yourself to Ghandi. Ghandi was a believer in non violence and non agression.

There is a HUGE difference between lying, which I don't think anyone here told you to do, and not saying things which may inflame the interactions between you and others.

Ghandi would not be an advocate of being confrontational, which you were when you use language like "not holding my breath".

As for marijauna, surely you understand that it was illegal until recently, and is only legal in some specific circumstances(personal use amounts) because of a ruling. The government can pass a law that makes it illegal again. It is illegal to sell, so by using it, you have participated in an illegal act(unless someone gives it to you). So by using it, you do open yourself up to questions. You have to ask yourself whether what you get out of it is worth the risk to your custody case. I know I would not take that chance. At least quit until the custody is settled, so that if asked in court, you can say you no longer use it.

 

[good_mom]

There are worst thing out there that you can do but it does not change the fact that you are in a custody battle.

Why would you risk all that you have gained....learn from your STBX mistakes and don't give her a leg to stand on.

Janus is right, family law is not fair and all it takes is one anti-drug judge and you risk it all.

Who cares about what other parents are doing! You are under the microscope not them….

Everything said and done can come back and bite even if you are not around your son...all it takes is one person.

If you don’t need it then you don’t have to defend smoking it.

If I had to give up my morning coffee for my kids no question...my kids are priority.

We are trying to help and you may not like what you hear…but in the end we are all trying to give you a different perspective on it.

We all wish, we could be our own judge but in court that is not the reality.

Everybudy is just watching your back that all...learn from the ones that have been there.

 

[SynGreis]

to the contrary, the police KNOWS i grow weed, its no secret, crown prosecutor tried it on me, they withdrew all charges against me when i pointed out the drug and substance act was unconstitutional evidenced by R v Mernaugh (CanLII - 2011 ONSC 2121 (CanLII)) and was appealed and was sustained.

So yes, i light up blunts in front of police because they KNOW WHO I AM. You clearly have been misdirected, stand up for your rights next time.

marijuana does not bother me in the slightest, i get cotton mouth and little hungry, but it doesnt bother me at all and does not impair me at all. OCL or whoever will have to show proof that it affects me in my capacity of parenting my child. I am sure doctors can agree drugs/herbs will affect people differently.

Public school? What they dont like the truth either? And who is to say that the child will even go to public school, i would much rather him be private or home schooled. I found public schools went way too slow.

Apples dont fall from their trees, is relying on the bold assumption that the child follows the upbringing of their parent to the t.

 

[SynGreis]

i am not comparing myself to ghandi. how is not holding my breathe being confrontational. i stated the facts and what i believed was true. but nevertheless OCL was renewed for a last ditch effort.

Marijuana currently HAS NO LIMITATIONS for personal use. IF you are caught then that is abridging commerce which can be taxed and regulated. But if it is given to you or you give it freely, then municipals or any form of government cannot stop you from doing so. I have applied this several times and the crown consecutively failed again and again. I know my rights much more then people like to think or admit.

I am well aware, and i have documented studies to support it for the use of marijuana, so its not like i sell or abuse it.

So again, OCL will be hard pressed to try and use that against me considering they have not been able to show that it would impair me at all, nevertheless never saw me using it.

 

[FB_]

Are you willing to die upon that hill which you currently stand?

I guess that's the only question....

 

[DowntroddenDad]

i am not comparing myself to ghandi. how is not holding my breathe being confrontational. i stated the facts and what i believed was true. but nevertheless OCL was renewed for a last ditch effort.

You really need to sit back and get less defensive, and listen to those that are trying to help you.

Telling someone going into a meeting that you are "not holding your breath" is telling them you have already pre judged them and how they will rule. Of course that will get their back up. If you came to me for a jobinterview, and told me you weren't holding your breath about the results of the interview, I would not be giving you a job. ITS AN INSULT TO THE PERSON YOU SAY IT TO, because you are telling them you don't expect to be treated fairly.

As for Marijauna, you are aware R v Mernaugh was appealed.
Marijuana stays illegal in Canada after Appeal Court ruling - Canada - CBC News

And the ruling is not that marijauna has no limitations on personal use.
It basically said that there was no automatic right to use marijauna for medical purposes, but doctors could exempt someone from the ban.

And you are not allowed to grow your own, unless you have that same exemption.

Marijuana Laws and Legal Cannabis Use in Canada

This site is quite specific, medical marijauna is ok, recreational use is not legal;
"It is not legal in Canada to use cannabis for recreational purposes, or for any purpose other than medical use. If you want to use cannabis medically under licence, see your doctor. "
And they are a law firm specializing in marijauna issues.

 

[dinkyface]

I don't have much memory of my parents 'teaching', but these I remember:
- .. and his tombstone reads "I had the right of way"
and
- Just because it is true doesn't mean you should say it.

 

[Mess]

I know you don't believe this but there was every possibility that get a positive report. By saying what you did, no matter that didn't swear or raise your voice, you told her you believed the process, and by extension her, would be biased and unprofessional. There is no way such a comment would be taken any other way but as hostile, no matter how much you were smiling.

 

[stripes]

You're seriously weighing your right to smoke marijuana against the possibility of being allowed to care for your child? If that decision is taking more than two seconds, you have some strange priorities.

 

[Janus]

But bottomline...Marijuana is a drug (you can skin it whichever way you want).

Caffeine is a drug
Advil is the brand name of a drug
Heroin is a drug
Codeine is a drug
Alcohol is a drug

A blanket statement of "MJ is a drug" does not really provide much information. What you are trying to say is that marijuana is a bad drug, by whatever standards you choose to use. It is likely that we do not agree on those standards.

If you stood in front of a police station and started smoking it, am sure your arse will be arrested and locked up

Family law is not the only part of our legal system that is frequently illogical.

Side effects of MARIJUANA....Does it not bother you?

It bothers me as much as the side effects of alcohol, caffeine and ecstacy. As a single parent, I pretty much abstain from all of those influences, but that is my choice. I think it is hypocritical to condemn one type of drug while defending another.

On a relative level, I would rather have my child taken care of a pothead than a drunkard.

Filter...you might think it's cute that your child has a mouth on them, but the school will beg to differ if the same kid displays that attribute at school, and it reflects on you as a parent.

My child is a toddler, and very smart, I'm not too worried about school.

What is taht saying again....apples don't fall far from the tree?

I hope so! I'm pretty awesome.

 

[Janus]

Anyhow, my point was that even if it is totally reasonable to grow marijuana and smoke it in front of your children, it would still be a bad idea, because family law is almost a completely subjective exercise in discretion. SynG is at the mercy of the opinion of a bunch of people, and some of those people will be very anti-drug. When you are powerless, it is best not to provoke.

 

[SynGreis]

janus nailed it.

besides what do you think SOR means. Statutory Orders and Regulations.

Statutory means a government directive. Last i checked i am not part of the government nor do i work for the government. But hey, its not like i have any idea what i am talking about.....lets go to a law library. Look up motion....bet you will be surprised. I have applied this many times and all it happens is the crown puts on a dog and pony show blah blah blah "we think it is best for the public interest that charges be withdrawn" blah blah blah. Its so obvious that they are trying to hide the fact that their statutory laws do not apply without a docket number and a bill of lading/birth certificate......but im ranting.

I am far from powerless, the OCL knows i take her oath VERY seriously. And i will hold her to it (we covered this on the phone call today). So no i am not powerless, in fact i feel empowered that i know what they must do and i will hold them to it incase they deviate. Anything else is admissible.

 

[Pursuinghappiness]

On a relative level, I would rather have my child taken care of a pothead than a drunkard.

I'd rather have neither.

I don't get the argument here. If you're interested in achieving success in a custody/access situation....stop the marajuana...enough said.

Its really quite simple...regardless of your personal feelings on smoking pot, its illegal and can assist quite effectively in your losing custody/access. So stop.

And Janus, I have never smoked cigarettes, pot and I no longer even drink wine. I don't consume caffeine either as I now drink roobois tea or white tea but I cannot understand how someone who complains as much as you do about college tuition can think its ok to throw away a small fortune buying pot. The stuff is overpriced, not to mention, unregulated and dangerous. You have no idea what they're cutting it with when you smoke it. Plus, the stuff seriously reeks and the smell clings to everything...much like cigarette smoke.

I'd hate my kids to be around a chronic pot smoker and I'm glad that neither me or my ex doesn't set that kind of example. However if you're in the middle of an OCL supervised custody/access battle and can't figure out how to put down the damned pot until its over, you have a problem.

(Go ahead and bash away...its still the truth).

So yes, i light up blunts in front of police because they KNOW WHO I AM. You clearly have been misdirected, stand up for your rights next time.

Sigh...

 

[SynGreis]

I'd rather have neither.

I don't get the argument here. If you're interested in achieving success in a custody/access situation....stop the marajuana...enough said.

Its really quite simple...regardless of your personal feelings on smoking pot, its illegal and can assist quite effectively in your losing custody/access. So stop.

And Janus, I have never smoked cigarettes, pot and I no longer even drink wine. I don't consume caffeine either as I now drink roobois tea or white tea but I cannot understand how someone who complains as much as you do about college tuition can think its ok to throw away a small fortune buying pot. The stuff is overpriced, not to mention, unregulated and dangerous. You have no idea what they're cutting it with when you smoke it. Plus, the stuff seriously reeks and the smell clings to everything...much like cigarette smoke.

I'd hate my kids to be around a chronic pot smoker and I'm glad that neither me or my ex doesn't set that kind of example. However if you're in the middle of an OCL supervised custody/access battle and can't figure out how to put down the damned pot until its over, you have a problem.

(Go ahead and bash away...its still the truth).



Sigh...

i have no idea what you are talking about.

you sound VERY confident that im going to lose this because of weed. I dont know where you are getting your information but i have a friend who smokes regularly because of an injury and had a medical card, i walk in. I smell nothing.

I know several people who went to court ON THE RECORD admitted to marijuana WITHOUT a license. Guess what they still got sole/joint custody. Wanna know why? The other party could not prove that his abilities were impaired while under the influence.

Still the truth? Whats the truth? you made an assumption that im a chronic pot smoker? I thought i cleared this up. I smoke maybe a few joint a month. Total addict here?

 

[DowntroddenDad]

Caffeine is a drug
Advil is the brand name of a drug
Heroin is a drug
Codeine is a drug
Alcohol is a drug

A blanket statement of "MJ is a drug" does not really provide much information. What you are trying to say is that marijuana is a bad drug, by whatever standards you choose to use. It is likely that we do not agree on those standards.

I would not disagree that there are many types of drugs, and that not all drugs are bad. I am addicted to caffeine, it has some effects, but none that impact my cognitive ability. Heroin and Codeine have their purpose in dulling pain, but are addictive and can dramatically impact cognitive ability when used too much. Unfortunately for heroin the bar is pretty low.

Yes alcohol can be worse than marijauna particularly if you have the kind of addictive personality that leads to abuse. But I have seen addiction to marijauna and tragic consequences.

This myth that marijauna does not impair you in any way is a destructive myth, and some day it will be a criminal offense to drive under the influence of marijauna the same way it is to drive drunk. In high school I lost a friend who died driving under the influence of marijauna (he didn't drink alcohol at all).

The fact is that drugs are not good or bad, they are on a spectrum. Many drugs used in modern medicine are fine so long as they aren't abused. Marijauna use can range from occasional to daily, and the effects vary by person.

 

[SynGreis]

Wow.

IF its so destructive why is most of US unbanning it because of a lack of negative affects.

I have been doing weed with myself my friends across the country. i have NEVER EVER seen any negative affects.

Marijuana lacks any proper addictive substances to be considered addictive.

So please enlighten me. what affects are you referring to. Impairment? All i seen and noticed is it slows down your thinking so you can gather thoughts. Yea maybe stumble a bit but hey.

 

[Janus]

And Janus, I have never smoked cigarettes, pot and I no longer even drink wine. I don't consume caffeine either as I now drink roobois tea or white tea but I cannot understand how someone who complains as much as you do about college tuition can think its ok to throw away a small fortune buying pot.

I don't partake in any of that crap, for the reasons you mentioned

I just think that adults have the right to make lousy decisions. The irony here is that I fully intend to support my children through university, I am a strong believer in education, my problem is that I should not be forced to do it, that is all.

Wasting money on recreational drugs is silly, but so is wasting money on alcohol or fast cars.

I'd hate my kids to be around a chronic pot smoker and I'm glad that neither me or my ex doesn't set that kind of example.

My kids are exposed to a number of suboptimal care situations, not the least of which is that they are often in the care of my ex. I'd take the chronic dude over my ex any day.

Yup, if my kids had to be cared for, this guy is my goto person way ahead of the ex. He's even almost drinking milk!

However if you're in the middle of an OCL supervised custody/access battle and can't figure out how to put down the damned pot until its over, you have a problem.

I have to agree there, I'm not sure why SynG seems to think that I am supporting his position...

 

[DowntroddenDad]

Wow.

IF its so destructive why is most of US unbanning it because of a lack of negative affects.

I have been doing weed with myself my friends across the country. i have NEVER EVER seen any negative affects.

Marijuana lacks any proper addictive substances to be considered addictive.

So please enlighten me. what affects are you referring to. Impairment? All i seen and noticed is it slows down your thinking so you can gather thoughts. Yea maybe stumble a bit but hey.

Acute cannabis consumption and motor vehicle collision risk: systematic review of observational studies and meta-analysis | BMJ
There are many many studies that show impairment by marijauna users. Its true that other drugs and alcohol will also impair you. Point blank you double your risk of dying by driving high.

Marijuana Is Addictive, Causes Withdrawal: Study

As to whether you believe its addictive, well I'm sure I won't convince you.

 

[SynGreis]

because i dont see why i SHOULDNT. What can they possibly say to justify whatever they may make. It plays no part if they cannot find proof that it impairs me ASSUMING i do it when i am with my son.

 

[SynGreis]

“Cannabis is the most prevalent illicit drug all around the world – including in America – and current treatment options have very limited success rates for continuous abstinence,” Allsop said.

my god apparently he never heard of heroin. It never says what causes the addiction. Funny.