Is claiming domestic violence in a divorce 'worth' it?

[Tayken]

Not that I have a lot of time on my hands to answer your every query-will get back to you this evening on that when I get time.

There really is no need to. Honestly. You have your opinion, I have mine. I have an opinion that your allegations may possibly be unfounded and unsubstantiated against the other parent. The matter and the extreme nature that they are made to this board is questionable in my honest opinion. You can take it or leave it. Short of providing your case file number you are not really going to convince me otherwise.

I previous alluded that I am in fact not that clever,while your allusions were too much so.

Actually, we are going to have to agree to disagree. I in fact think you are quite clever and intelligent.

On that persons particular problems I have advised that political intervention, in regards to preventing travel papers being acquired by the other parent. Politicians are used to various degrees of horse trading. An agreement signed an Ambassador of the OPs country, in agreement that no papers would be processed without both parents signature would be useful.

With regards to the person I think you are alluding to. That person is a Canadian citizen and the courts, not a "politician" who has no authority to do as you are stating, have made the appropriate order in the matter.

There are many good MP in the parents general area. There is one of great integrity in the west whom I have heard nothing but good things of.

Yet, they have no ability to sign any document that should be ordered by the court. This is where you are mistaken in your recommendation in that matter. The Family Court and not a politician has jurisdiction over the matter. To recommend otherwise could be dangerous to those reading this and other threads you have made this recommendation.

Good to hear that you volunteer.You previously have offered that your knowledge was purely academic.

I didn't state I volenteer. I have interviewed, academically, experts who work in the industry. Not sure where you have drawn that conclusion from.

While you get aggravated

Quite the contrary in fact. Although, as an emotional reasoner you can jump to any conclusion you want to make. There seems to be a constant and repeated pattern of this behaviour.

that I presume you have lack of knowledge in a particular field you are happy to presume that I too lack knowledge or insight or for that know people who work on the front line. Presumption on either of our parts is arrogant.

Then feel free to disclose what you do, know and how you know it. Then there are no presumptions. You are formally invited to share your experiences with others on the matter, the materials you have read to support your argument and the "experts" you have consulted.

Good Luck!
Tayken

 

[hadenough]

Jeez, now I'm going to have to look at it... I see everyone hit the ground running today. I do enjoy reading everyone's opinions over a coffee

I'm going to change the topic a little (and likely get ignored, lol) but has anyone heard of "Canada Court Watch?" It was mentioned in conversation recently and I have no personal interest in their 'services' but I was curious as to what people know about it. A quick scan of their website (imo) seemed that they are advocates for persons who feel they've been wronged by the Family Courts.

 

[arabian]

I recently had a look at what might be described as their web site and didn't see anything but advertising and a very short video.

 

[Tayken]

LOL Bald.....

The website is ridiculous. That was my point. This entire thing is ridiculous.

Yet you "believe" what is posted is authentic and truthful. I don't think you got what baldclub was alluding to.

The doctor was held for costs and order to pay for her frivolous lawsuit but I certainly could easily find something that made fun of it to post.

Of a censored document that anyone could type up and post on a website that contains libel statements and links to videos censored by YouTube...

Next thing I know there is going to be a taken.blogspot.ca with similar libel statements on it and links to false documents that don't even expose the court file number. Just like the Canadian court system, the British Court system is a public system. There is no need to censor a court file number unless the document is forged generally.

I was trying to make a point that arguing about things isn't helpful. Piles and piles of internet links do not make someone correct. I intentionally used the website to prove that not everything quoted or researched from google is useful.

And as Bladclub pointed out and I am again pointing out... That source of information is about as trustworthy as Landover Baptist Church when trying to determine what Christians believe...

In my opinion, arguing back and forth like what has occurred on this thread is ridiculous. The bottom line is who cares? Is madm telling the truth? Hopefully.

Yet, you continue to contribute to the thread. Interesting to say the least.

Is Tayken contradicting himself? Possibly. Does s/he tell others to seek counselling and then cry libel when it is applied in the same manner to himself? I don't know. Shall we argue about grammar, spelling and punctuation? Why?? For pete's sake, why?

Because it is libel to say someone is mentally ill. It isn't libel to recommend someone seek assistance. I have been called "psychotic" which is libel.

We all need help. If we are abusers, drug addicts, criminals, "average", whatever. We are all struggling through the dynamics of a separation/divorce. I don't understand the need of anyone to rip apart, tear down or criticize another poster. Who cares if they don't see your point?

Unfortunate you "feel" this way. The only motive is to assist those making allegations to (a) present the argument correctly (b) present proper evidence and not just unsubstantiated hearsay and (c) the damaging effects that allegations have on a family's dynamics and most importantly the psychology of the children involved.

False allegations of domestic violence is abuse.

Good Luck!
Tayken

 

[baldclub]

Ya, that website just screams of "trustworthiness".

Next thing we are going to hear is that the Landover Baptist Church is a real church and not satirical and is real.

Landover Baptist | Where the Worthwhile Worship. Unsaved Unwelcome

I am converting as we speak ... that site is gold!

 

[madm82]

False allegations of domestic violence is abuse.

Good Luck!
Tayken

Tayken, we finally agree on something!

And yes, it is disturbing when you even have to bring this argument to another thread, to continue to attack me.

 

[baldclub]

Jeez, now I'm going to have to look at it... I see everyone hit the ground running today. I do enjoy reading everyone's opinions over a coffee

Yup, it's been busy!

I'm going to change the topic a little (and likely get ignored, lol) but has anyone heard of "Canada Court Watch?" It was mentioned in conversation recently and I have no personal interest in their 'services' but I was curious as to what people know about it. A quick scan of their website (imo) seemed that they are advocates for persons who feel they've been wronged by the Family Courts.

Start a new thread lol, this one has already been hijacked haha!

(A little info here:http://www.ottawadivorce.com/forum/f9/more-news-canada-court-watch-site-3106/)

 

[hadenough]

@Baldclub: Thx, but I don't think it's worthy of a new thread really. Just wondered if anyone had any opinions on the group. Seems that there's a website for absolutely everything and I get enough entertainment/info from this one.

 

[baldclub]

I'm going to try to redirect the discussion here, which is about domestic violence (real and false). I know this will probably inflame an already heated discussion but give me your thoughts please:

Reaction To Women Abusing Men In Public - YouTube

I found this as I was checking out the group hadenough had mentioned. I ended up somehow on Not All Dads Are Deadbeats and there was this report from ABC News.

 

[murphyslaw]

You have misunderstood me again.The OP whom I believe we are referring to ,has two nationalities and may attempt to get travel documents for the child in question.There appears to be little to do to stop this.This is where I had suggested seeing if the other country of nationality could agree not to provide travel documents .If the other country were aware of the actions of its citizen prior to any request for papers they could look for court orders prior to signing off on travel documents.This is where contacting ones local MP for guidance on doing this could be helpful.Perhaps we are talking about a different case altogether.In which case I apologise.I believe that the OP is a citizen of a non -treaty country.