Imputing Income to Sugar Babies/Prostitutes

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So a weird thing happened recently, a friend of mine pointed out a Facebook profile of a ~60yr old guy in Chicago who seems to being having a relationship with my 35yr old ex (from Montreal).

It seems she is flying out to see him periodically for maybe a week at a time.

My ex is still not employed and the ailmony is going to end Sept 1st leaving her a net income of $500 CS, 500$ child benefits/ month - a far cry from the 4000$/mo she was collecting for the past few year and not enough to live off of.

I am wondering if I will be able to impute an income to her right now based on this, has anybody seen something like this? I don't think I can inpute income to her based on her "husband" supporting her since they may not cohabitate...
 
Sex seems to be a thing for you, from your posts. Of course you can't impute an income to her for having sex with rich people. I think you know that.
 
Can vs. Should.

If a parent is not working because they have hooked up with a sugar daddy, then income should be imputed. However, while it can be it likely will not be imputed.
 
I think if this arrangement lasts past Jan 2017, I will attempt to impute income to her based on her lifestyle if she still doesn't work full-time.
 
So a weird thing happened recently, a friend of mine pointed out a Facebook profile of a ~60yr old guy in Chicago who seems to being having a relationship with my 35yr old ex (from Montreal).

It seems she is flying out to see him periodically for maybe a week at a time.

My ex is still not employed and the ailmony is going to end Sept 1st leaving her a net income of $500 CS, 500$ child benefits/ month - a far cry from the 4000$/mo she was collecting for the past few year and not enough to live off of.

I am wondering if I will be able to impute an income to her right now based on this, has anybody seen something like this? I don't think I can inpute income to her based on her "husband" supporting her since they may not cohabitate...

First of all, you seriously have a bizarre hang-up and attachment over your ex-wife. Does she have a restraining order?

Now you've got your friends facebook stalking her?...just bizarre. And by the way, she can have relationships with whatever guys she wants...if the guy happens to be older, that hardly means she's a prostitute or a sugarbaby. I have a very good friend who's married to an older guy after divorcing someone closer to her age. He's nice looking, he's kind, he's intelligent and he dotes on her.

Anyway, I highly doubt you'd be successful. Women are allowed to date and sleep with whomever they please on the side without having it affect their spousal support...sometimes, they're allowed to even have conjugal relationships and still get SS depending on what type of support it is and whether you spelled something specific out in your SA.

If you think you're going to print out some stalking-found FB crap and call her a prostitute in court and get an income imputed for that, I think you're pretty much of your mind and probably need to find something else to do with your time rather than bitterly obsessing over your ex. Courts kind of frown on angry men who do stupid crap like that.
 
First of all, you seriously have a bizarre hang-up and attachment over your ex-wife. Does she have a restraining order?

Now you've got your friends facebook stalking her?...just bizarre. And by the way, she can have relationships with whatever guys she wants...if the guy happens to be older, that hardly means she's a prostitute or a sugarbaby. I have a very good friend who's married to an older guy after divorcing someone closer to her age. He's nice looking, he's kind, he's intelligent and he dotes on her.

Anyway, I highly doubt you'd be successful. Women are allowed to date and sleep with whomever they please on the side without having it affect their spousal support...sometimes, they're allowed to even have conjugal relationships and still get SS depending on what type of support it is and whether you spelled something specific out in your SA.

If you think you're going to print out some stalking-found FB crap and call her a prostitute in court and get an income imputed for that, I think you're pretty much of your mind and probably need to find something else to do with your time rather than bitterly obsessing over your ex. Courts kind of frown on angry men who do stupid crap like that.


^^^ Yup.


Your ex is free to visit, meet, have sex with, receive gifts from, whoever she wants, as are you. Your opinion of her sex life, as an embittered ex-husband is completely unimportant. Welcome to the 21st century.

(and how exactly would you go about imputing an income as a prostitute? "Your honor, I saw a picture of my ex on Facebook with an older man who lives in another city, therefore he must be paying her to have sex with him. I think based on this Facebook picture that she is earning $xxx annually from prostitution and I would like to have this amount imputed to her for the purpose of calculating child support". Have fun with that).
 
Your honor, I saw a picture of my ex on Facebook with an older man who lives in another city, therefore he must be paying her to have sex with him. I think based on this Facebook picture that she is earning $xxx annually from prostitution and I would like to have this amount imputed to her for the purpose of calculating child support".

lol.

I totally get why paying SS might be difficult...although its the price a lot of men pay for tolerating women who don't/won't work for too long. I always advise my young male relatives only to choose women with educations and strong work ethics and who find being self-sufficient imperative.

But I cannot understand men who feel the need to vilify their exes after divorce to this extent. The level of bitterness it must take to sustain this kind of nonsense is so wasteful and useless. It only hurts the person doing it.

Who cares who your ex wants to sleep with? She doesn't want to sleep with you and your relationship is over and she's more attracted to other men...even other older men...whatever. If those men are buying her things...that's between her and the men.

My advice...stay off her FB and the next time one of your so-called friends stalks her FB for you (which I highly doubt), tell them to mind their own business because you're trying to finally move on with your life and not obsess over a woman who clearly doesn't want you anymore.

If anyone tried to gossip to me about my ex, I'd tell them I wasn't interested. His private life is none of my business.
 
There was a fellow on this forum a number of years ago (can't remember name). He was a regular poster at the time. He was separated and had to pay substantial child and spousal support. Meanwhile, his ex had remarried to a very wealthy guy. As I recall it, he went to court many times to try to have his CS and SS reduced but was unsuccessful. He even went so far as to show lifestyle differences (likely trying to chip away at the "need" part of SS) but failed. Sometimes life does indeed seem pretty unfair.

What I would do Links is look at this a different way. Perhaps your ex will someday be so darned wealthy and tired with the litigation that she simply agrees to sign off on SS. I'm sure you can be charming and perhaps you can friend her and try to get on her good side? Or maybe not. Either way, you have to move on. Perhaps you will find a wealthy sugar-momma who will help you pay your CS & SS.
 
There was a fellow on this forum a number of years ago (can't remember name). He was a regular poster at the time. He was separated and had to pay substantial child and spousal support. Meanwhile, his ex had remarried to a very wealthy guy. As I recall it, he went to court many times to try to have his CS and SS reduced but was unsuccessful. He even went so far as to show lifestyle differences (likely trying to chip away at the "need" part of SS) but failed. Sometimes life does indeed seem pretty unfair.

What I would do Links is look at this a different way. Perhaps your ex will someday be so darned wealthy and tired with the litigation that she simply agrees to sign off on SS. I'm sure you can be charming and perhaps you can friend her and try to get on her good side? Or maybe not. Either way, you have to move on. Perhaps you will find a wealthy sugar-momma who will help you pay your CS & SS.

lol, I know a lot of women with money and I can't imagine one of them using it to pay for some guy's ex-wife and kids.

But like I said, I can totally understand how paying SS could be infuriating. I don't think that's all of what's going on here though. I think the rage is coming from more than just the financial obligation.
 
First of all, considering how much success I have had in court - I know for a fact that legal positions I consider are reasonable.

I have 50/50 shared custody. Alimony is ending Sept 1st, my ex wife appealed that judgement (alimony termination ) - the appeal is going to be heard in November. I will still be paying her 500$/mo and when my income increases she will get more, also S7 expenses are affected by income

I believe (and the law says) that each parent is obligated to work full time to aupport their children. in the case that a parent refuses to work and is supported by another person then as is done to many fathers who try to escape support - assessments the lifestyle of the parent should be used to assess their income and child support calculated accordingly if my ex wife is traveling in way that makes it impossible for her to work I do not want to pay her child support in reflection of that

I already asked the judge in the alimony termination heading to impute income she said "not YET".... that basically opened the door to me to impute income of 25000/year to her about 2 years from that judgement IMO. The key is to impute as much as possble.

if you think I am so stupid to call my exwife a whore in court you must be crazy . I will just ask for her expenses and get her travel information and then tell the judge she is earning money under the table and should be imputed income.

As long as my exwife is taking money from me, any proof (fb posts etc...) I can use to reduce that will be fair game. Don't underestimate social media in court, it helps


6000$/yr is the lease payment for a nice car or 2 vacations for my kids . I prefer to keep the money and the slut can screw who she wants. I don't even mind paying (for a bit) her while she is screwing other people but she is appealing the judgement .... she wants me to pay while she travels around like a slut... So in a way, yes... HOW DARE SHE, have some shame 4 years later and off a 7 year marriage you still want me to support you

The other fact is I think within about 2 years either she is going to leave the kids with me or they will leave her, she is a terrible person and the kids are appreciating me way more now that they live with me for a week straight and when she leaves I am going to get as much child support as possible so I am laying the groundwork. Once the money has ran out is too little to take care of herself she has no incentive to keen them.

Arabian l would never give her the satisfaction of treating her like a human being except for the purposes of getting shared custody . To me she is objectively one of the worst people I have ever even heard of, shameless useless tramp , I pity my kids have a mother like her
 
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So you do it the same way everyone else does who argues for imputation of income. It is HER choice to not seek employment, therefore she should be imputed the income she is capable of making, so you are not overpaying CS and/or SS to compensate her for choosing not to seek employment.

The reason for her not needing employment could be anything; living off a humongous inheritance, winning the lottery, living with family and having few expenses, being otherwise supported by family, living with a new high-income partner, cash gifts from multiple admirers, whatever. The point is that it should not be YOU providing her sole income in the form of SS or CS. You have not hired her as a live-in nanny in a second residence.

She has had several years of SS after the divorce to seek employment from the sounds of it. It is time for SS to end and for her to be self-sufficient. The means by which she achieves self-sufficiency isn't important.
 
So you do it the same way everyone else does who argues for imputation of income. It is HER choice to not seek employment, therefore she should be imputed the income she is capable of making, so you are not overpaying CS and/or SS to compensate her for choosing not to seek employment.

The problem here is:
1. Will they do it at all, I have hope but still

2. If she ends up having a "good life" due to sugar baby/prostitute status do the kids/me get to benefit the same way she would if I was "successful" or I was hiding undeclared business income. Inheritances etc... those are clearly used, its the high income "partner" case-law I am looking for...

For a lot of women, who they marry is their only shot at a decent lifestyle, just wondering if anybody has seen successful litigants imputing income to these types of women - taking a hit of 25k in child support calculations is peanuts if you are actually living off somebody wealthy and your ex is like me with a professional career....
 
Focus on your ex's health, education, work experience, available jobs in her field, potential salaries, and how you can show she would qualify for those jobs.

All your negative comments about your ex only speaks volumes on your emotional state. I hope you're able to move on one day.

My ex just didn't want to work, so I was able to impute income on her after 3 years to get to trial. In the end, cs went down and ss went up, and I saved $19/month. S7 is 50/50. In a couple years ss will end, paying 7 years on a 7 year marriage, and then I'll experience the benefits of the imputed income.
 
Focus on your ex's health, education, work experience, available jobs in her field, potential salaries, and how you can show she would qualify for those jobs.

All your negative comments about your ex only speaks volumes on your emotional state. I hope you're able to move on one day.

My ex just didn't want to work, so I was able to impute income on her after 3 years to get to trial. In the end, cs went down and ss went up, and I saved $19/month. S7 is 50/50. In a couple years ss will end, paying 7 years on a 7 year marriage, and then I'll experience the benefits of the imputed income.

The Point in bold makes sense to me.
 
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