Defeating an unfair and biased OCL report

Well Rioe please read my previous post so you'll understand what she did at the shelter with the baby and what was my concerning regarding his safety. Why nobody informed me about it at that time, i had to find out from my 7 years old daughter?! She put the child's life in danger ans no one told me, nobody. Thanks.

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Well Rioe please read my previous post so you'll understand what she did at the shelter with the baby and what was my concerning regarding his safety. Why nobody informed me about it at that time, i had to find out from my 7 years old daughter?! She put the child's life in danger ans no one told me, nobody. Thanks.

Ah, okay, yes, that's a separate issue and relevant to your case. But not relevant to complaining about the lawyer to the Law Society.
 
Baby falling from bed to floor was an accident. It does not mean she is unfit to parent. I get that you are frustrated that you cannot get the info. But there will be no benefit in pursuing this. It is a clear attack on the mother, and does nothing to show that you have the best interests of your child at heart.
 
True. Which I do. But Im speaking about communication letters. My ex stopped communicating with me about our child since the proceedings began ( I assume was advice on her lawyers part) I text , No Response. I email, No Response so then I write a letter and register mail it to her Still no Response. every thing in any of my communication is about our child.

but she has no problems communicating when she wants to be informed about our child when he is in my care (which I have no issues with and I am very transparent and forthwith).

My ex does something similar. Its a punishment thing.
 
Baby falling from bed to floor was an accident. It does not mean she is unfit to parent. I get that you are frustrated that you cannot get the info. But there will be no benefit in pursuing this. It is a clear attack on the mother, and does nothing to show that you have the best interests of your child at heart.

Well said. Best to refer it as a concern, and leave it at that.
In my case, my oldest (age 4) set fire to the kitchen at my ex's place.
I didn't jump all over the moon about it. Kids will be kids.
She got up early and went down stairs and tried to make breakfast.
My ex was still asleep.
 
So, going back to my previous question, you're saying that she was not suppose to go to the shelter unless there is a court order in place?

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So, going back to my previous question, you're saying that she was not suppose to go to the shelter unless there is a court order in place?

No, that's what I've been trying to clarify. YOU are not supposed to try to get the lawyer in trouble about the advice to go to a shelter until YOU have a court order in place with your ex. One battle at a time.

She can go to a shelter whenever she feels like it.
 
No I don't think I said that, if I did I'm sorry I wasn't clear.
I think what I said is that shelters shouldn't be advising people to make false allegations.
Lawyers shouldn't be advising people to make false allegations.

I also said the lawyer shouldn't be advising clients to run away to a shelter unless their is clear proof of DV.
 
No, that's what I've been trying to clarify. YOU are not supposed to try to get the lawyer in trouble about the advice to go to a shelter until YOU have a court order in place with your ex. One battle at a time.

She can go to a shelter whenever she feels like it.

I wish I could have gone to shelter, unfortunately there aren't any for fathers with children anywhere is Canada.

But this is a separate issue.
 
The following case law is a good caselaw as to when Joint Custody should be rewarded.
But remember custody is only decision making authority.

CITATION: Garland v. Brouwer, 2011 ONSC 6437
DATE: 2011-10-31
CanLII - 2011 ONSC 6437 (CanLII)

JOINT OR SOLE CUSTODY?

[24] Both Garland and Brouwer presented as educated articulate young people, although both exhibited an amazing immaturity regarding their relationship with one another. I have no concerns as to certain common problems that are routinely found in these types of cases, such as violence, verbal abuse, or substance addiction.

[25] I find that both parties deeply care about Teegan and both are very capable parents. I have no concern about Teegan’s welfare while in the care of either of the parties. Moreover, both of the parties have the support of their extended families.

[26] When they discussed their respective positions regarding custody both parties referred to their ability to make decisions for Teegan. Garland testified that he was a dedicated father who wanted to be, and should be, fully involved in making all major decisions for Teegan. Brouwer testified that she had made all of the decisions for Teegan so far in her life and she saw no reason to change that situation.

[27] The Ontario Court of Appeal decisions in the cases of Kaplanis v. Kaplanis 2005 CanLII 1625 (ON CA), (2005), 194 O.A.C. 106, and Ladisa v. Ladisa 2005 CanLII 1627 (ON CA), (2005), 193 O.A.C. 336 set out guidelines as to when a joint custody order may be appropriate. Those guidelines were summarized in the Ontario Court of Justice decision in Habel v. Hagedorn, [2005] O.J. No. 3556 (O.C.J.), and later adopted by this court in the case of Patterson v. Patterson, [2006] O.J. No. 5454 (S.C.J.).

[28] In summary, those cases determined that a joint custody order may be appropriate in three main types of cases:

1. Where the parties agree to a joint custody order;

2. Where there is a positive history of cooperation between the parties; and

3. Where it is appropriate to preserve one parent’s relationship with the child.

[29] In my view, the case before me falls into both category #2 and category #3 above. There is a positive history of cooperation between the parties, and a joint custody order is appropriate to preserve Garland’s relationship with Teegan.

[30] Regarding the cooperation of the parties, Quinn J. wrote in the case of Brook v. Brook, [2006] O.J. No. 1514, and I adopt, that “… one must take care not to hold the parents to an unrealistic level of mutual cooperation. After all, they are estranged. The cooperation needed is workable, not blissful; adequate not perfect.”

Add most importantly

[31] I add that one parent should not be rewarded for being uncooperative. That is, a parent should not be granted sole custody if that parent has engineered the circumstances so that the parties appear to be uncooperative.

So in your case, if the ex is the problem in why you can't communicate then one can use this case law to argue that the ex is barred from sole custody.

Therefore the only options open to the judge would be joint, parallel or sole to you.
 
Invplveddad75, you're amazing, now I need time to go over that case.
Do you honestly think that I have a chance for joint or parallel parenting?

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Invplveddad75, you're amazing, now I need time to go over that case.
Do you honestly think that I have a chance for joint or parallel parenting?

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I think anyone does with the proper work and effort.

You just have to be doing ALL the right things and present your case according to the law...
 
Well that's the thing, there is always a chance. Look at me and WorkingDad.

At the end of the day, your chances for joint or parallel is directly linked to your conduct, your ex's conduct and the judge selected for trial.

Since you can only control one of these things. Focus on making your conduct the best part of your case.
 
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What are the differences of joint and parallel parenting?

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Yes do examine Working Dad's posts in particular. You might be able to relate closely to what his nutty wife put him through. The court's ruling was just and fair.
 
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