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Is it common practise for the lawyer to fill out the brief and not forward a copy to you to review before you sign it?
Once again, got email from assistant asking me to come in tomorrow to sign and did not forward me a copy.
I asked them to. This happened with the reply as well and had made lots of changes as the lawyer made some big mistakes.
 
I always got a copy ahead of time for me to review, and I always had changes.

When you go in, take the brief to a conference room or a waiting room if it is a small office, and sit by yourself and read it over. Tell your lawyer to continue on with other work and not charge you for this time.
 
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Lawyers dont know enough factual things about your case to be filling out a case brief. I filled out my own, and then my lawyer went over it so it was "legally" correct. If she did it, I know there would of been tons of errors. You need to look out for yourself, lawyers can give legal advice but they know nothing about your marriage or your finances and they wont remember once you tell them either.

Furthermore, lawyers should remember who is paying for them. They have no right to do a court brief and just expect you to sign it before they file it. That is not right, this is your life, and they dont have the right to file such a document without giving you time to throughly go over it.

Dont file anything in court without reading it first, because once its filed it becomes gospel and hard to make amendments too.
 
Looking4Answers said:
Lawyers dont know enough factual things about your case to be filling out a case brief. I filled out my own, and then my lawyer went over it so it was "legally" correct. If she did it, I know there would of been tons of errors. You need to look out for yourself, lawyers can give legal advice but they know nothing about your marriage or your finances and they wont remember once you tell them either.

Furthermore, lawyers should remember who is paying for them. They have no right to do a court brief and just expect you to sign it before they file it. That is not right, this is your life, and they dont have the right to file such a document without giving you time to throughly go over it.

Dont file anything in court without reading it first, because once its filed it becomes gospel and hard to make amendments too.
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Even case confernce briefs? There are tons of lies on those. I was under the impression that no one takes CCB seriously.
 
I give up!!!! CC brief was just a copy of all the things covered in application and reply!
No where was what I orginally wanted to do, is to propose my parenting plan.
And all I wanted to do was to show how I was/is a good parent, not trying to prove he is not a good one.
 
tugofwar said:
I give up!!!! CC brief was just a copy of all the things covered in application and reply!
No where was what I orginally wanted to do, is to propose my parenting plan.
And all I wanted to do was to show how I was/is a good parent, not trying to prove he is not a good one.
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I feel you. It's frustrating. It seems teh whole system is designed for a mud slinging match. I was told "once you get in front of teh judges it changes". No it doesn't. They love the mud slinging and even take sides. No one seems to want a resolution and just push both sides to draw every signle last ounce of blood.

It's over when one of you decide it's over. Until then we are just puppets on a string. If I see another letter I will throw up.
 
I have finished the cc ( which I think is just bull) anyways, lawyer sent me cover letter to his lawyer and now sent me a list of things he wants me to email him. Isn't it too late to add things now to the cc?
 
I'll be so lucky if this cc date sticks. Ex having trouble now with 2nd lawyer.
Hum, makes me wonder why or is it just his bad luck?
What's going to happen now if he says he hasn't had time to prepare for this?
 
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Can anyone else come to the cc brief like ex's parents and sit with us with the judge?
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Anyone???

So, cc brief coming up, not sure if I should be doing anything else to prepare as Im not sure it will happen. I haven't done anything since I signed my cc brief and what should I be doing to prepare?
Questions I should be asking myself incase I get asked etc?
When will I find out if it's postponed? Then what is my next step?
Set another date? Do I have to go thru the whole process again? URRRRRR
 
I hope to have my current husband by my side during my case conference. However, my lawyer has told me that the other side must be in agreement to having him there.
Therefore, it is my understanding that, in order to have another party sit in on the case conference, everyone must be in agreement to them being there. You have the right to say, "No, I don't want them there." and they will not be allowed to stay.
 
Yes, my CC was in the court and unless privacy was requested the other cases were in the courtroom as well. My mom and sister both came with me. If you prefer to have the case closed to the "public" make sure you have a reason as is causes a delay.
 
LOL, didn't know I needed permission to puke. Anyways, do different cities have different conferences? My friend told me her's was informal and in a seperate room and that you and ex sit across from each other..... puke.....
 
Ok the count down is on. Help, Im feeling overwhelmed with this whole process.
What should I expect from the cc? How and what should I do to prepare myself? Will the judge ask me questions to answer?
I don't know what to think of about any settlement offers etc?
I heard the lawyers do most of the talking.
What is the appropriate dress code? How do you address the judge?
How long do most last?
While filing the brief I noticed there was a section for you to fill out asking the judge to make orders?
I thought they can't during the cc?
Please help.......
 
Dress is what they call "business casual" which can be just about anything. I wore Mark's Work Warehouse and a sweater over top, my lawyer said I looked "just like a dad". My lawyer said not to dress like had a lot of money ;).

You might not talk to the judge at all, or the judge might want you to answer a few questions. Mostly the lawyers will sit with the judge and go over what was in the brief.

What happens depends on what your issues are and how far apart you are and what you are asking for. If you are close, the judge might offer a compromise position. If one of you is totally unreal in your expectations, the judge will tell you that you will probably lose. If you have asked for an immediate order on something, like one party hasn't given all the financial documents, then the judge will order them to.

I think you were trying to get your house sold off? Do I remember right? It's possible the judge will tell your ex to get moving on that, or at least ask what the hold up is.

The judge is "Your honour" but mostly you won't have to say that. The judge might say "What do the kids do after school?" or something, and you just answer.

Absolutely don't interrupt the judge if they are saying something, wait your turn and be invited to speak. You may ask something, but be polite like you are in third grade and raise your hand and wait for them to ask you.
 
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I think you were trying to get your house sold off? Do I remember right? It's possible the judge will tell your ex to get moving on that, or at least ask what the hold up is.
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Well, first it was to get the house sold and now we are trying to get possession of the house to get it fixed up for sale as we think ex has let it fall to ill repair and to get a house appraisal. What if he produces one and it's no where near what I really think of the value? Is it always the current value or can you ask to back date it?
But his defense is that he uses the house for his business so not sure where we stand as far as that goes.
Im not worried about anything really pertaining to our child as my life has been all about her and have stayed strong on focusing on her.
As for all the other matters-- not sure about so I will hope my lawyer has a good handle on that.
I heard also sometimes the lawyers will meet with judge first to go over things. Im just worried about my brief and that it's not strong enough.
I haven't seen my ex's brief as I am worried it will produce itself at the actual meeting which gives me no time to prepare or maybe he will hand it to me tomorrow?
 
Well, you get there early and should be able to sit with your lawyer for a while before the conference. The brief would have to be in by then so you can look it over and tell your lawyer the answers to the lies.

For me, my lawyer went in and I stayed by myself, and then she kept coming in and out and asking me a few questions the judge had asked and if certain things were OK with me... I was getting an interim order.

This went on for like half and hour, and then we all went in to the judge's chamber which is a little office, and the judge said for me and my ex to sit side by side so she could look at both of us at once. She wanted to see how my face reacted when my ex said something, you know? They are smart, these judges, don't screw with them. She asked a few things about the kids and after school and such, more to get a feel of who we were as people and not just be words on a page. Then she made the interim order. My ex asked a question, the judge said she was an evil conniving bitch (not quite but close).
 
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