Bathing question

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Sheesh...for goodness sake put on some boxers or underwear. :eek: I realize that is not the same as sleeping completely naked, but we do have to modify some of our ways once we have children.

It is one thing sleeping naked with your spouse/partner...not appropriate to be naked when sharing that bed with your six year old. Same goes for the shower. If he wants to get into the shower with you...slip on some underwear/swim shorts...

Of course this is my opinion only :)
 
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Heh. You are certainly entitled to your opinion.

Maybe you grew up in a household where you never saw anyone naked.
Maybe you have issues with your body that you feel shame as a result.

Who can say?

I attended private school for my high school years. Lived in a Dormitory with 50 other boys. Showers were communal. Played many sports over the years. Change room usually have communal showers too. Should people wear bathing suits in those 'public' instances?

Certainly they should in 'private' instances like in their own home, I guess.
 
Nadia said:
Sheesh...for goodness sake put on some boxers or underwear. :eek: I realize that is not the same as sleeping completely naked, but we do have to modify some of our ways once we have children.

It is one thing sleeping naked with your spouse/partner...not appropriate to be naked when sharing that bed with your six year old. Same goes for the shower. If he wants to get into the shower with you...slip on some underwear/swim shorts...

Of course this is my opinion only :)
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Yes and you're welcome to it. I don't agree - I wouldn't shower with my girls now that they are older, but if my son wanted to jump in the shower before I was done, I would have no problem with that. I certainly would not put on clothing! I don't see what is wrong with a man being naked around his own son - its just not a deal, and does not feel wrong in any way to me.

Men hang out naked - hockey change room, gym showers, etc. but I have to cover up around my own son??

Myself, my ex, and my kids have no issue with nudity at all, we never shut the bathroom door etc. I don't sleep naked, but there is nothing wrong with that either.

What is wrong is seeing your kids sexually. BUT that is the tiny minority of people. What is wrong is letting the sick minority dictate what the rest of us do.

wretchedotis - your ex and her partner have issues. Issues that caused your child to be interrogated by police - that is bad parenting.
 
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I don't think there is anything wrong with grown men hanging out naked around "each other" in the gym or hockey change room. Or a situation where "High school" aged students have to share a dorimatory showers with each other. Or where children have to share communal showers with other children. But I would draw a distinction between that and adult nudity around children aged 6.

No one has the right to make any judgements on how things work at any home. It is a personal choice. But when you post on a public forum like this, you have to expect some to agree with you and others who disagree and everything in between.

I do NOT think it is a reason to call CAS or police for that matter. Wretchodis, your ex is an idiot for contacting them.
 
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billm said:
wretchedotis - your ex and her partner have issues. Issues that caused your child to be interrogated by police - that is bad parenting.
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They sure do. I've been charged twice, and just recently filed and served 34 police occurance reports they have been the complaintant in over the last year and a half.

They range from accusations of me stealing my son's coat (he was returned wearing a differnet coat once), to Uttering threats and sexual misconduct.

One thing I will say - is that when one side obviously abuses the system by calling the cops - they catch on eventually.

Its funny to read the reports and notice the gradual transformation of police being unbiased and trying to do their job - to police having responded a million times to non-police matters and getting sick and tired of a parties obvious attempt to make someone else's life difficult.

There is one report where the cop literally names the other side as being the instigator/agressor/problem. Pure Gold.
 
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They range from accusations of me stealing my son's coat (he was returned wearing a differnet coat once)...
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You and cashcow4ex could have quite a conversation over a beer about your ex's.

I don't have such problems with my ex, but when she accuses me of things that are so crazy (like stealing money from the kids bank accounts :eek:), it really helps me put all her other other crap in its place that I can normally have self doubt about such as personal attacks.
 
Nadia said:
I don't think there is anything wrong with grown men hanging out naked around "each other" in the gym or hockey change room. Or a situation where "High school" aged students have to share a dorimatory showers with each other. Or where children have to share communal showers with other children.
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Nadia... I do think each house is entitled to handle nudity differently, so long as our children are raised with a positive attitude, ane respect for themselves. Our boys (6 & 13) have been in changerooms with their hockey and lacrosse teams naked, half clothed, shaking their butts at each other since they were 4.

Good luck dealing with the ex ! That would require a switch to decaf.
 
My bf and I have run into this problem now too. My 5yo girl and his 6yo girl wanted to have a bath together. When his ex found out she freaked! Since then there has been no bathing together, however they see each other naked every Wednesday while changing at swimming, and do a naked booty dance etc. The girls are completely comfortable together, since they are both KIDS!

Sheesh! God forbid they get so ashamed they develop body issues! whats the big deal? just add lots of bubbles!
 
billiechic said:
My bf and I have run into this problem now too. My 5yo girl and his 6yo girl wanted to have a bath together. When his ex found out she freaked! Since then there has been no bathing together, however they see each other naked every Wednesday while changing at swimming, and do a naked booty dance etc. The girls are completely comfortable together, since they are both KIDS!!
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And they should be that comfortable about it into adulthood as well! Cute
 
billiechic said:
My bf and I have run into this problem now too. My 5yo girl and his 6yo girl wanted to have a bath together. When his ex found out she freaked! Since then there has been no bathing together, however they see each other naked every Wednesday while changing at swimming, and do a naked booty dance etc. The girls are completely comfortable together, since they are both KIDS!

Sheesh! God forbid they get so ashamed they develop body issues! whats the big deal? just add lots of bubbles!
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Tough one as everyone has different views on nudity. I don't think its a big deal, but I'm no nudist on the other hand.

I just recalled a couple I knew years ago - the wife was not even comfortable changing in front of her own husband. No naked booty dance going on there!
 
It's amazing to see the intolerance we (adults) inflict on our children under the guise of what we deem acceptable by societal standards about things that are so natural as nudity. Children aren't born biased or with a jaded perception of their own bodies or people seeing them - the same way they're not born anti-semitic or homophobic. It's really a shame to see adults cultivate such negative attitudes in our children (such young children, especially) rather then letting them naturally develop a sense of modesty on their own. :confused:
 
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Tough one as everyone has different views on nudity. I don't think its a big deal, but I'm no nudist on the other hand.

I just recalled a couple I knew years ago - the wife was not even comfortable changing in front of her own husband. No naked booty dance going on there!
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Me neither. I used to be very ashamed of my body, but quickly learned to deal with it when I had to get help breastfeeding my daughter. While I dont love my body at the moment, I certainly have a much healthier view of it and encourage both girls to do the same.

The naked booty dance takes place in a changing cubicle. While the girls are quite comfortable, I need to to protect them from anyone else who would be peeking at them. Especially when one of them yelled today "I love my body!" while doing the dance :p
 
blinkandimgone said:
It's really a shame to see adults cultivate such negative attitudes in our children (such young children, especially) rather then letting them naturally develop a sense of modesty on their own. :confused:
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How long does this take?? My sons are 4 and 7 and their naked antics are outrageous. I can't wait for them to want some privacy for certain things. Of course, I've been told that fart jokes never stop being funny to the male half of the species, so I could be waiting a while.
 
Girls get modest about the time they start school full-time. Boys are modest from about 12-16 and then it's back to pretty much the same thing. I don't think they grow out of it after that.

As for the farting...that never gets old for the guys. After a certain age it's all about the tone and pitch rather than the frequency or volume.
 
May_May said:
I hope u put your boxers on before u open the door for them !
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Usually I get a call from them telling me I'm about to be arrested. I'm then given the choice of surrendering, or waiting for a knock at the door.

I choose to surrender. No point in making things harder then they need to be.

In this case, I goto the cop-shop and surrender. I try very hard to be fully clothed when I show up. No point in adding public indecency charges to the mix...
 
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