Audio Recording

Please edit your posts to remove your kids's names! (Or mods, can you take the kids' names out?). You don't want them to be searchable, do you?
 
how about a video recording of a parent pushing her son down a small flight of stairs 1.5 years ago? or text threats to hurt "herself or someone else in the house" (as in kids) while you're out of the house? or son witnessing mother hitting her husband repeatedly? Would a judge care or is the system still so biased?
 
^my personal opinion on this is that if an adult were knowledgeable about abuse to a child and failed to call the police then that adult should be charged.

Waiting for 1.5 yrs to protect a child is abhorrent in my opinion - just as guilty as the perpetrator.

Sicko
 
That person did go to the police eventually about it. He was turned away and told that his young son would have to file charges. Fortunately the child wasn't hurt. Still, I'm sure that person regrets not going sooner. I'm sure he had to struggle with the choice and decided against it hoping that it was a singular incident. I think that person lived through a lot of anger and only recently came to realize he was living in a state of fear.
 
-the video recording of an intentional push of a child down a flight of stairs would be taken seriously in my opinion
-also the threats to hurt herself or somebody else.

Its worth bringing up to at least hear the stupid excuse the judge give if he/she ignores it, just to confirm that there is a bias....

But yeah, you'll have to answer why you didn't do anything - but if you check women abuse strategies there are plenty of explanations while they don't come out and run away from abusers right away.
 
arabian said:
^my personal opinion on this is that if an adult were knowledgeable about abuse to a child and failed to call the police then that adult should be charged.

Waiting for 1.5 yrs to protect a child is abhorrent in my opinion - just as guilty as the perpetrator.

Sicko
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and whoever videotaped the son being pushed down the stairs. If it was the father who was taping then WTF was he thinking??
 
In case of domestic abuse, some times the perpetrators get away with it because the abused spouse is too scared to do anything.
 
i believe that person wasn't at allexpecting that to happen and rushed to the boy's aid as soon as it happened. i think he was filming to show the mother what her temper problems are like in order for her to get help.
 
vocircuspants said:
i believe that person wasn't at allexpecting that to happen and rushed to the boy's aid as soon as it happened. i think he was filming to show the mother what her temper problems are like in order for her to get help.
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a person living in a "state of fear" like you suggest from an abusive partner will not do things like video tape them to show that she has anger issues. A person being abused will do anything so the abuser doesn't get mad.

The person in this instance didn't protect the child and that doesn't make him a hero. Why videotape when the child is right there? How old is the child? Most parents would do anything to protect their child from abuse or witnessing stuff like that.
 
Not to go on and on about this, but under what circumstances does filming an incident of abuse "to show to the mother later" take precedence over intervening and protecting the child? This sounds like a case of two parents who are so caught up in their conflict with each other and proving who is the bad guy that the kids have become secondary. This impression is bolstered by the fact that the filming parent is contemplating showing this to a judge a year and a half after the incident happened. Why?
 
I'm not suggesting that person is a "hero". I'm not a psychologist and I'm assuming you aren't either. I don't know if other abused partners try to show their abusers that they are abusive or not. I'm sure there are all types of abusive situations and personalities involved. I do know this one hoped to convince his partner that she has temper issues and the situation escalated to a point he did not expect. The mother knows nothing of the videotape and denies kicking him down the stairs, stating the boy launched himself down the stairs when she started to push with his foot. And it didn't take 1.5 years for him to go to the cops. He waited too long, but the cops didn't care if it was today, yesterday, or 3 months ago. Since that incident he did everything he could to ensure no harm would come to his kids. To my knowledge, and his, none did.
 
I have an audio recording on my phone( around 90 of them) of my wife screaming in front of the children and threatening me. She used the F word and threatened to take the children away from me. Would it help in court?
 
nolimit said:
I have an audio recording on my phone( around 90 of them) of my wife screaming in front of the children and threatening me. She used the F word and threatened to take the children away from me. Would it help in court?
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No probably not - unless she later followed up.
 
If someone is behaving irrationally around your children your first instinct should be to protect your children.

Having 90 videotapes is quite telling - Besides showing you are perhaps employed in the wrong career, you clearly are looking for 'dirt' on the other parent and that you will go to any length to achieve your objective, even it if means subjecting your children to a lousy home-life.

So you stand around with your video camera/cell phone taping your ex all the time? I think I'd be telling you to f**k off as well - loudly.

Did it ever occur to you that you could spend your time diffusing the situation by simply taking your children out for a trip to the local library?

You would be better to focus your time/energy on creating a parenting plan for the future. You have to become more child-focussed. Trying to get dirt on your ex shouldn't be your focus. You have to convince a judge why shared parenting is in the best interests of the children. I think you are going to have a very difficult time with this as it seems you are too adult-conflict focussed.
 
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stripes said:
Not to go on and on about this, but under what circumstances does filming an incident of abuse "to show to the mother later" take precedence over intervening and protecting the child? This sounds like a case of two parents who are so caught up in their conflict with each other and proving who is the bad guy that the kids have become secondary. This impression is bolstered by the fact that the filming parent is contemplating showing this to a judge a year and a half after the incident happened. Why?
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She was yelling at a child being extremely difficult. The stairs part caught him off guard. He did rush to the child's aid as soon as he saw it happening. As for showing a judge, well there are other new concerns he has that makes him wonder if he should be asking for full custody.
 
Child Custody is public order, its always open to renegotiation if circumstances change.
there are other new concerns
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This is 50% of the battle, determining if the "new concerns" are significant to warrant a re-evaluation
 
His new concerns are the new environment children are to be raised in: polyamory, strangers moving in and out all the time and education neglect.
 
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