75/25 arrangement Is there child support?

If you have very limited access for 3-5 years, the child is either still breast feeding or the parent messed up - making the limited time necessary. A false claim alone would not cause this, and it's certainly not the norm.
 
StillPaying said:
If you have very limited access for 3-5 years, the child is either still breast feeding or the parent messed up - making the limited time necessary. A false claim alone would not cause this, and it's certainly not the norm.
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It really depends on how busy the courts are in your region. Here is the real life case:
Ex runs away with kids and files Application.
Case conference only 5 months later.
OCL ordered and SC scheduled in another 9 months
a year after Application parties come to the SC and OCL tells that their report isn’t ready. Case judge is upset and books another SC “just” 7 months away
During next SC judge gets the report from OCL, but unhappy because kids were interviewed over a year ago. He orders another interview and books another SC.
The OCL lawyer steps down and new OCL assigned.
Obviously new OCL needs time
All in 3 years passed, and OCL finally tells that kids wants daddy more than mommy. Judge of course says 50/50.


in my regions courts were also shut down few times due to COVID, which caused even more delays
 
Challenger said:
It really depends on how busy the courts are in your region. Here is the real life case:
Ex runs away with kids and files Application.
Case conference only 5 months later.
OCL ordered and SC scheduled in another 9 months
a year after Application parties come to the SC and OCL tells that their report isn’t ready. Case judge is upset and books another SC “just” 7 months away
During next SC judge gets the report from OCL, but unhappy because kids were interviewed over a year ago. He orders another interview and books another SC.
The OCL lawyer steps down and new OCL assigned.
Obviously new OCL needs time
All in 3 years passed, and OCL finally tells that kids wants daddy more than mommy. Judge of course says 50/50.


in my regions courts were also shut down few times due to COVID, which caused even more delays
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Ok so after three years dad ended up with 50/50. This wasn't a case of dad never got shared or dad was assigned eow and one night a week. Neither was it ten years later etc. Sure it was not great for three years but in the end it was 50/50.

I could also argue that something should have been filed by dad (read: emergency motion) to get mom to return with kids and have set parenting time while the case went through the process. SP will tell you how that is done.

There are mom's on here who have been fighting for close to a decade to just get regular support from their ex's who want nothing to do with them. Dad's who have disappeared and couldn't give a crap. My mom finally started getting arrears when my father started collecting OAS and CPP. She waited almost 30 years. Forget about what my siblings and I paid for school. That was all on us—no S7, no support, not even a gift or two.

There are horror stories on both sides of the table. Assuming that the courts are completely unfair to men only is a fallacy. Truly courts are unfair to kids. And a lot of that unfairness starts with unreasonable parents.
 
rockscan said:
Ok so after three years dad ended up with 50/50.

I could also argue that something should have been filed by dad (read: emergency motion) to get mom to return with kids and have set parenting time while the case went through the process. SP will tell you how that is done.

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Yup, dad actually did ask for emergency motion - was never given one. Instead court booked for case conference, where judge ordered 2 hours a week visitation, and essentially established status quo. From that moment mom was doing everything possible to delay moving the case forward and judge wasn’t even on her side, but wasn’t doing much either.

Those 3+ years without father can’t be returned to children. And if they were without mother, it would’ve suck just the same. This is why I think default should be 50/50, until proven otherwise.
 
StillPaying said:
You should start your own thread to explain why you were given 8 hours per month visitation for 3+ years, and how it wasn't your fault.
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It isn’t too fair to challenge someone’s statement, and then send them to answer in different thread.

On the actual question- it takes about 9 months to get court date in my town, then OCL takes a great role in delaying their reports, then few reschedules due to COVID.

I wouldn’t even call courts biased - inefficient is much better word.
 
You're jumping over the good part. Why was only 2 hours per week ordered? Why wasn't it increased in 3+ years? Certainly not because of ocl and covid.
 
StillPaying said:
You're jumping over the good part. Why was only 2 hours per week ordered? Why wasn't it increased in 3+ years? Certainly not because of ocl and covid.
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You asking me to tell what was in the judge’s head? There was nothing in the application against me such as assault, alcohol or substance abuse or even use - I hadn’t touched alcohol in 10 years before divorce.

I spoke to some other people in the same court - despite judge being different, it was very common ruling.
I even have instance where the same ruling was applied towards mother (so see, courts aren’t biased, they just don’t do in interest of child).

And then the OCL. They met children few times in January and once in February. Why, just why they would not have report for September 9 months later? I call it lack of accountability, as I don’t see how 2-3 pages report can’t be produced in 9 month, but can in 9 months and a week - they simply likely forgotten, but you can’t really do anything about them either.
 
Well that's a big 2 thumbs down for the blameless, monotonous story. Access only 2 hours per week for 3+ years is not the norm...anywhere. To pretend you don't know why it was ordered, and for so long, is nonsense.
 
StillPaying said:
Well that's a big 2 thumbs down for the blameless, monotonous story. Access only 2 hours per week for 3+ years is not the norm...anywhere. To pretend you don't know why it was ordered, and for so long, is nonsense.
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I am not sure what the common practice province wide - in this court house it seems very common.

My speculation that reason for OCL and only 2 hours visitation till their report ready was desire from judge to transfer responsibility to someone’s else shoulders.
 
You certainly don't have to share your story but it would help the story make sense. Which part of your past are you ignoring or feel is irrelevant?

Breast feeding babies will have more access with the ex than you. And ocl don't take cases unless they feel it is necessary.
 
StillPaying said:
You certainly don't have to share your story but it would help the story make sense. Which part of your past are you ignoring or feel is irrelevant?

Breast feeding babies will have more access with the ex than you. And ocl don't take cases unless they feel it is necessary.
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I can’t share what I don’t know. I can however tell that Judge even though he granted me only 2 hours in his endorsement and in recommendations to OCL was actually going very hard on mom and the fact she played that trick and took one of the child with use of physical force. To me it was complete nonsense- you pissed of with my ex, yet your actual order supports her.

As I as saying before - talking to some now friends « processed » in same court house, 2 hours a week is a common start. And quite honestly I don’t get it. If judge is afraid parent would harm a child, there should be supervised visitation.
 
We can chalk it up to ignorance for your case, but no - 8 hours access per month, no overnights, and ocl involvement is not a common start anywhere.
 
StillPaying said:
We can chalk it up to ignorance for your case, but no - 8 hours access per month, no overnights, and ocl involvement is not a common start anywhere.
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I don’t have much ego here, and willing to assume I don’t know something. But with CAS, OCL, Police , Psychologist and even testimony from my ex, there was not a single negative report or disclosure about me or my involvement with children. Well, ex of course wrote I am the worst person in the world, but I imagine this is so common in family court that judges just ignore it as white noise.

Friend got 3 hours a week with no sleepover for 1.5 years from the same court, and the only reason it was less than three years, is they settled sooner as both ran out of money for legal fees. I spoke with few dads during hours of wait in the court last year - quite a few were in similar shoes.

And the fact that OCL actually recommended me to be in charge of children more than 50% speaks for itself. Ex of course didn’t agree, and I offered 50/50 which was accepted.
 
StillPaying said:
The problem with these strong, negatively viewed posters is that they can find the info, and really keep going on about it, but don't understand what it really means. It's like complaining you can't find gender specific case law regarding access/support.
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hmm… well that is a little passive aggressive. You decide to attack me? Because you have been proven wrong? Facts don’t lie… and one may need to re-assess their own position if those facts seem to work against you. As in the case of you “Stillpaying”.

You just jumped out of the actual topic here and announced that you are speaking from a far left agenda…attack when you have nothing else. I can spin this around and say the same of you. “You just don’t understand the facts and speak from the “I’m always right no matter the facts” left agenda.

By not addressing me directly, is a strong message of ignorance and aggression.

How is this behaviour permitted on this forum? Unless the forum has a hidden agenda?
 
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StillPaying said:
You're special no matter what they say.
I think you need a hug; and were probably "busy" Jan 6th.
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You are just fxxkin weird. Last person someone should be takin advice from on here. Like currently seeing a doctor.. I need help navigating life.. kind of weird.

Lol what ever Jan 6 means… lol you are fuckin weird. Considering you are an actual “Senior member” on here… it takes away any credibility this website has… if it had any . Lol

Moderator: please close my account. This site has a very high membership rate of incompetent and self entitlement that any attempt at receiving any helpful advice is low before you’ve even logged on.
 
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