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Old 11-07-2018, 02:24 PM
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I don't mind paying CS...
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I usually pay him a nice tip when he renders my accounts.
Well, if you do not mind paying CS to you ex or the fees to your lawyer, then you are golden! Perhaps you can also vote-in a tax increase in Ontario for added joy.

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Correct. I am older, wiser, and way more cool.
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I usually pay [my lawyer] a nice tip when he renders my accounts.
Nobody ever tips their lawyer. Seriously, I have never heard of it ever.
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What about the old lady with the will?
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What about the old lady with the will?
Well, hopefully I can find her and marry her before she leaves her "tip"...
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Old 11-08-2018, 10:33 AM
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An old lady has just signed her Will with her solicitor and, having been presented with the invoice, immediately pays it in full with a crisp, new, $100 bill.

After the old lady departs, the lawyer goes to put the $100 into a safe when he discovers that there are two $100 bills stuck together.

As he goes to the window of his office and looks down at the old lady crossing the street to catch the bus, the lawyer realizes he has an ethical dilemma:

Does he tell share the $100 tip with his partner?
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Old 11-08-2018, 11:17 AM
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Nobody ever tips their lawyer. Seriously, I have never heard of it ever.
Not officially, no. And it seems actually insane in family law given how much family lawyers make (No joke- I'm seriously considering a practice change)...however, when I was in private practice, I used to get reeeeeally nice christmas presents from my developer clients. And actually the nicest gifts I got were from the ones who owned bars and other adult entertainment establishments.
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The rule of thumb is that a lawyer will put in two days of work for each day of trial. Based on that schedule, your lawyer is preparing for a ~4 day trial. How long is your matter set down to last?

I recall from a previous thread that you are micromanaging your lawyer. This could be increasing your costs.



Yes, this happens fairly often. However if you do then your ex's lawyer will likely smell blood in the water - any hope of settlement is likely to be gone as well.



Does she have the financial assets (or money coming from you) to offset a cost award?
Thanks OL. Yes, she can pay my costs.
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Hey Coolguy... that's hilarious, but given the fact that P1 through to P4 are not deterministic, the grade 3 math below is useless.

But I guess amusing to at least you.

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Every Tom, Dick, and Harry involved in a high-conflict matrimonial litigation has had this dilemma. Luckily, I can help.

Scenario #1 - win with lawyer:
W1(PND wins) = [What's at stake] + [costs to PND] - [Lawyer fees]

Scenario #2 - lose with lawyer (worst-case scenario):
L2(PND losses) = [What's at stake] + [costs to STBX] + [Lawyer fees]

Scenario #3 - win without lawyer:
W3(PND wins) = [What's at stake] + [costs to PND]

Scenario #4 - lose without lawyer:
L4(PND losses) = [What's at stake] + [costs to STBX]

Consider the probability, Pn of each of the above scenarios.

if((P1xW1-P2xL2) > (P3xW3-P4xL4)) use lawyer; else self-represent;

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(i) What's at stake is known to you.
(ii) [costs to PND] < less than what you think it is
(iii) There is a substantial chance of a partial win that somewhat complicates the equations.

I am happy to have assisted. If however, you are asking the forum for the values of P1 through P4, then you are asking too much of the forum.
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Hey Coolguy... that's hilarious, but given the fact that P1 through to P4 are not deterministic, the grade 3 math below is useless.
Deterministic no, but you can actually get a feel for P1 and P2 by searching for trial judgments involving your lawyer. Chances are you'll get fewer results than you expect because only a small percentage of matters get all the way to trial. Zero or very few results is a bad sign; it means your lawyer does not have much trial experience. I just followed my own advice and it doesn't look good for me based on that...
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Hey Coolguy... that's hilarious, but given the fact that P1 through to P4 are not deterministic, the grade 3 math below is useless.
Reminds me of the Drake equation. It completely accurately calculates the probability of finding extraterrestrial life... you just need to figure out the component probabilities.

That's left as an exercise to the reader.
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