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Secondly, that is a US link, and there isn't any proof of anything like that for Canada. As a poli sci student I did much research on Federal Provincial transfers, and never saw any kind of "incentive based payment" let alone one like you suggest may exist. Am I a lawyer? No. Do I know lawyers, sure I do. I know the Dean of a law school, as well as many other lawyers in many fields. My ex worked at the second largest law firm in the country. I was heavily involved in politics and you couldn't swing a cat at a political meeting without hitting a lawyer. I'm going to point out that lawyers are on opposing sides during divorce court, and losing lawyers would very quickly complain if there was a kickback scheme that made them lose on a consistent basis. Finally I will leave you this: Extraordinary claims (as this is) require extraordinary proofs, which you have not provided. All I see is wild eyed speculation. |
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Having said this, then can you explain to me why is it that a child support payment is based on the non-custodial parent's salary without a maximum cap? You hear judgments like a custodial parent receiving 3,4 even 5K a month in child support. Why the abusive payments? Judges are intelligent individuals and they know that a whole family can be supported with 10K/year or less!!! Why would a single mom/dad want an EXTRA 36 to 60K$ (tax free) to live and support a child ? There has to be some sort of incentive for a judge to prescribe such a brutal payment. And don't get back to me an tell me that its because the custodial parent's life style needs to be preserved !!! That is total BS put forwards by judges again!! Quote:
You know what hammerdad, I run two corps, I know what accounting books are supposed to look like, I know what in and out entries look like in financial book keeping. I know how advances to shareholder and dividends entries look like and more. And if you are in this field, let me ask you a question, have you seen all the checks that go out from the federal government... have you seen all the checks that come into the state's bank accounts? All the judge's salaries may be made public alright, but frankly, I would love to sit down with a government accountant and look over federal government's bank account's general ledger and see all the entries that depict to whom, why and where alllllllll checks are going ---one by one. Then I would like the expense report from all the states receiving any money from the federal government and see exactly where this money goes. Lots can happen in the dark! I am sorry hammerdad, I just don't buy it. Something beneath you and I and everyone else is going on here. Everything is backed up by the same excuses: - Best interest of the child... its like as if we want to feed all our children with Champaign and caviar !!!! Anyone man or women can bring up a healthy child while going to work plus getting a reasonable child support payment! There are plenty of day cares around and collaborative help towards day to day life chores involving the child form the non-custodial parent should always be available. -The same lifestyle needs to be maintained.... sorry, that's what a divorce is.... break up, torn apart, broken, split-up, division, separation are all words that mean divorce.... why would judges increase the child support so much that it would contribute to maintain the other "divorced" half to the same life style.... It makes no sense!!! The only sense I see in this intent is kickbacks! If you don't agree, show me the books! ![]() -A man is stronger than a woman and therefore if a man hits a women he should be jailed, but if a women hits a man we let it go because a man is much stronger than a women... I say BS. This too points to kickbacks, the more the law punishes men (but not women) for violence, the more the marriage takes a tendency towards divorce... the more divorces the more kickbacks. Don't believe it? Prove me wrong! Everything in this divorce field has an excuse to elude the probable dark kickback system that may have, may be and may always be in place ! |
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Sooooooo, we agree that an open investigation is required to produce an in depth analyses of the governments (US, Canadian etc...) financial books and trace all payments! Yes its a big task, but if they are doing this, this would be the most unethical fraud that would be committed. No one should be able to get away with this. |
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I have seen the faces on judges giving out these child support judgments, their faces aren't sincere, they have greed written all over them! Look no one knows me here, but when I smell a rat, I am rarely wrong! Concerned! |
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It has been stated time and time again, the reasoning behind c/s being based off salary, with no cap, is because they were developed to provide the child with the same form of lifestyle as the child would have enjoyed had both parents stayed together.
There is no conspiracy causing high net worth individuals to pay large amounts. It is simply the notion that the custodial parents household should be relatively equal to that of the NCP's household. Whether or not the guidelines accomplish that, I agree that may be debatable. As they don't consider debts and other matters of either household. But the guidelines are better than the arbitrary amounts previously ordered, that varied wildly, and caused even more court battles where both parents argued why c/s should be one amount or another. As such the guidelines actually decrease court costs and legal fees paid by the parties. |
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The conspiracy is the receiver of child support spends the money on themselves and there is no accounting EVER of that. The receiver of child support should get 0 benefit from child support or government benefits received for the kids. It should by be spent on the kids.
No monies in the world is are as unaccounted for as child support. |
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Does the CP have to justify how they spend the C/S alone? Or do they also have to show how they spent their own money as well? One could rightly argue that, as both parents are expected to contribute to the child, maybe an accounting of the C/P's money should be articulated when reporting on C/S expenses.......which is simply unfair and intrusive. But again, if reporting were required, it could be easily argued. When one divorces, it is to move on with their lives with as minimal interaction with the ex as possible. Having to justify and report on c/s doesn't do that. And it could be used as tool to maintain contact and potentially be a means of abuse. Edit - and if you don't want to have the recipient report to the ex, how much more in taxes do you want to pay to have a government agency setup to oversee how c/s is being spent? Personally, I'd rather allow my ex to spend a few bucks on a Coach purse, than pay thousands in taxes over the years to prove she is only spending the money on the kids. Notwithstanding the taxes, that is just another invasion by Big Brother into the lives of taxpayer. Last edited by HammerDad; 04-09-2014 at 04:22 PM. |
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