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Old 02-15-2019, 08:36 PM
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News update is he was charged with 1st degree so premeditated and he is currently hospitalized.
He kidnapped her. That makes 1st degree automatic, so not necessarily premeditated... not that it makes it any better.
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Old 02-15-2019, 11:42 PM
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The tragic thing is that domestic homicide is the most preventable homicide there is. There is an interesting article about the death review committee ( a committee which was formed to review all the cases of domestic homicide across Canada) and their recommendations. Maybe one of the tech savvy members can pull up the article.

The committee found that there were certain common risk factors ( about 30 in all). Each case had four or more risk factors. Some risk factors were rated more dangerous than others. Some of the risk factors included:

- going through a separation or divorce
- alcohol or substance abuse
- history of death threats to spouse, children, pets
- mental illness ( including brain damage)
- unemployment or financial stress
- stepchild in the family ( sexual jealousy)
- history of controlling behaviour
- history of false accusations of an affair
- dependence on the spouse
- isolating the spouse
- history of assault
- history of strangulation
- history of threatening with a weapon such as a gun or a knife
- history of hostage taking or forcible confinement
- involvement in family court


These are the ones I can remember. The report slammed custody and access assessors for not completing any type of risk assessment and judges for ignoring evidence. They also found custody assessors had little to no domestic violence
training.
They recommended all custody assessors have extensive domestic violence training and perform lethality risk assessments on all high conflict divorces. They felt that using the lethality risk assessment was an effective way to differentiate between real risk and false allegations. All of their recommendations were ignored.

In my own case I had hard core evidence from CAS, police, his doctors , his psychologist and his specialists. Even if you took away everything I ever said and only looked at what third parties had to say, any rational person would have declared ďHouston we have a problemĒ. The judges did all order supervised access but they minimized all the evidence and put the children at terrible risk.
The custody assessor was the biggest idiot to ever walk the planet. She recommended I have sole custody and that he have unsupervised access. They did this without conducting a lethality risk assessment. CAS had stepped back at this point because the court was involved. They agreed he was dangerous but said they couldnít do anything until he physically hurt the children again.
Something did transpire again which I will not get into here. Suffice it to say because of this incident the judge did not follow the recommendations of the assessor.

In the case about this poor 11 year old I bet more of the risk factors are present than just separation. I also feel that if judges and court assessors had the proper training they could easily identify those at high risk and put safeguards into effect without negatively affecting innocent fathers and mothers who simply donít get along.

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Old 02-17-2019, 02:06 PM
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The news Iíve seen and heard seems to be focused on the idiots complaining about being woken up by the alerts on their phone and not about the death of this child by one of her parents.
It's really too bad that the two independent issues are intertwined; the tragic death of a child and a terribly implemented amber alert system. Hopefully, the implementers of the amber alert system will get their act in gear and fix the system.
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Old 02-21-2019, 12:43 AM
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https://toronto.citynews.ca/2019/02/...sissauga-girl/

At least he spared the tax payor the expense of a trial and incarceration. My heart breaks for her family. But Iím not sorry he died. I guess he thought they could live together in enternity.

I do agree with the mayor of Mississauga that this needs to be a wake up call for violence against women. We may never know now if the Family Courts were involved, but obviously the Mom had some kind of court order.
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The only problem is that he died of a self-inflicted wound, which means he intended to die.
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The only problem is that he died of a self-inflicted wound, which means he intended to die.
True but while on the run? If it was murder/suiside you would have thought he would have wanted to die with her. But Iím clearly speculating here.

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Old 02-21-2019, 01:24 AM
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guy is a piece of shit.... hope he wasn't a contributor on here

we get some real weirdos though ... women haters.. makes one wonder
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Old 02-21-2019, 01:40 AM
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this was heartbreaking. I even feel more bad because I had mentioned it in an email I was sending to the school about something else joking about it being loud and allowing me to sleep after it was cancelled ... the message they sent read child been found... for me to only found next day that child found doesn't necessarily mean child found alive.

I completely understand the fathers frustration and do hold the court system somewhat accountable, but absolutely think the father took it too far.. why in your right mind would you kill your own kid? How can you even live a normal life after something like that?

definitely a wake up call to the courts to be more speedy in courts and less restrictive against fathers... escalations dont ever turn out well in custody disputes..

sucks because of the name it puts on dads..gives the courts another reason to heavily discriminate and stereotype fathers.. sigh..

rest in peace beautiful child.

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Such a shame he died. Would have been justice for him to have had to face the consequences of what he had done here in the realm of the living
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no excuse IMO for person who fathered this child.

Pretty sad that this fuck will suck up taxpayers money with legal defense for years to come ...

tragic beyond comprehensio
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