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    Hello,

    New to the board here so hopefully I got the right forum.

    My fiancé has two boys aged 12 and 10 with his ex-wife. The ex remarried shortly after the divorce was final and has a little girl with the soon to be 3rd ex. Late last year we heard thru the boys that she was having marital problems and had hooked up with someone in Edmonton. Five weeks ago she informed us of her decision to move out there for a "job". Needless to say she is moving in with the new boyfriend and the job is doubtful. She has not given us a forwarding address nor his full name, so we are completely in the dark with the situation the boys will find themselves in out there. Initially she pushed to take both boys with her, but decided my fiancé was right to want to keep the boys here to finish out the school year and to give her a chance to settle out there. She has no family/friends out there and we wanted to be sure it would work out there prior to uprooting the boys. Tuesday we get a call saying she's not leaving until Wednesday now, so we can pick the boys up then. That night my fiancé is talking to the oldest. An hour later she calls from her cell on the road telling him that she has the oldest with her but has left the youngest for us to pick up. Suffice it to say we have been very upset with this turn of events. She didn't give sufficient notice prior to her move and convinced the oldest to lie to his father. Police could do nothing, and according to a lawyer are chances aren't good if the boys want to be with her. This woman has been up on fraud charges, been sued by her mother and got a cut of the profits, dragged a fellow down the road with her vehicle, committed horse theft, forged signatures on legal documents, and the list goes on. It boggles the mind that she isn't in jail. We feel like we are at her mercy. She even wanted her child support cheques in order to agree for them to remain with us to finish off the school year.

    Has anyone experienced anything like this? Is there anything we can do? This woman made half a dozen or more moves in the last 10 years just in our area. We are concerned that she will simply drop off the map. She also stated that she would pay for the boys flights to and from ON 4 times of the year. Based on her past history we'll be lucky if she pays for one flight out here. What can we do to make sure that they're safe out there and she's enrolled him in a school to finish off the year and beyond?

  • #2
    Your first mistake was agreeing that the boys would go to Alberta at all. Personally, I would file for sole custody of the one you have and request that the court have the other boy returned to Ontario, asap. Hopefully she doesn't have anything in writing that you agreed to their moving to Alberta.

    I feel for you...

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    • #3
      No, she has nothing in writing from him.

      The only reason he "agreed" to it was because she had him convinced there was nothing he could do. She's the type to call the police and falsely accuse someone. And although the police know she has a history of lying, they have to follow thru or be liable. She's rather "unstable" and their father is just trying to keep life as simple as possible for the boys. She uses this to her advantage of course.

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      • #4
        A 10 or 13 year old does not know what is best for them. File the paperwork for custody and request that the oldest be returned to Ontario. Do it quickly. Once paperwork is filed in Ontario, she will have no choice but to come back here to go to court.

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        • #5
          According to the lawyers the kids are at the age where their wants will be a deciding factor. If they want to be with their mother the judge will listen. We've also been told that in order to get him back here it would have to approved in Ontario and then go thru the Alberta court system. We need to somehow prove that she is detrimental to their mental and moral well being. She provides for them physically, but is causing them emotional harm. How do we prove it though?

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          • #6
            They maybe a deciding factor but they don't just do whatever the kids want, regardless of what is in their best interests. From what you have said, living with her is not in their best interests.

            Regardless, she is not allowed to move them out of province without consent. Requesting that the oldest be returned to Ontario does not necessarily mean in your custody.

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