Originally posted by limer
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Accordingly, if special occasions, extracurricular activities, excursions or other opportunities become available to XXX or to either of us, neither of us will insist that the residency arrangements set out herein be adhered to without exception.
This is the issues…see how religion can be used against someone with a clause like this…specially Christmas time, Easter….open up to more arguments.
Mom wants dad out of the picture….can you see an issue here! Great way to get dad out and get the access required to put him out of 50/50.....
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This is the issues…see how religion can be used against someone with a clause like this…specially Christmas time, Easter….open up to more arguments.
I absolutely cannot see it actually. Most people...whether they practice religion or not, get time off during these holidays. So they become days that each parent will split up reasonably in order to gain access time for the children. No court is going to say that Christmas is only a holiday for christians and therefore the father has no right to claim his access time...that's ridiculous, paranoid and yet another reason why you should stay out of this dispute...you're being irrational. Honestly, who the hell reads this kind of nonsense into a separation agreement???
By that token, if you want to get super stupid...for argument's sake, I could make up a religion and associated holidays like Holy Hamster Day and then take away my ex's access time for religious freedom reasons. Afterall, the hamster died on the holy running wheel for our sins. How do you a think any reasonable court would look upon that kind of stupidity?
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Originally posted by Pursuinghappiness View Post
By that token, if you want to get super stupid...for argument's sake, I could make up a religion and associated holidays like Holy Hamster Day and then take away my ex's access time for religious freedom reasons. Afterall, the hamster died on the holy running wheel for our sins. How do you a think any reasonable court would look upon that kind of stupidity?
We will soon take over christianity.
and no, I don't honestly see the OP's point either.Start a discussion, not a fire. Post with kindness.
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Originally posted by Pursuinghappiness View Post
By that token, if you want to get super stupid...for argument's sake, I could make up a religion and associated holidays like Holy Hamster Day and then take away my ex's access time for religious freedom reasons. Afterall, the hamster died on the holy running wheel for our sins. How do you a think any reasonable court would look upon that kind of stupidity?
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Originally posted by Pursuinghappiness View Post
I absolutely cannot see it actually. Most people...whether they practice religion or not, get time off during these holidays. So they become days that each parent will split up reasonably in order to gain access time for the children. No court is going to say that Christmas is only a holiday for christians and therefore the father has no right to claim his access time...that's ridiculous, paranoid and yet another reason why you should stay out of this dispute...you're being irrational. Honestly, who the hell reads this kind of nonsense into a separation agreement???
By that token, if you want to get super stupid...for argument's sake, I could make up a religion and associated holidays like Holy Hamster Day and then take away my ex's access time for religious freedom reasons. Afterall, the hamster died on the holy running wheel for our sins. How do you a think any reasonable court would look upon that kind of stupidity?
If it not going to be a legal bit in the ass later then, I will pass on the info.
Detaching from this when we plan after all this is said and done to merge our familles...is very difficult when Holidays will be celebrated together including the new Holy Hamster day!
I LOVE Holy Hamster Day!
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That the problem...dad is reasonable...see previous post on Thanksgiving....mom not so much.
I think its a fairly common trap when one ex is nuts, for the stbx spouse to think they need to match their ex's level of crazy to do well in court. Actually the exact opposite is true. Courts like reasonable parents who are solution-based...not conflict-based.
Part of it is habit...you spend a marriage living in the crazy house and reacting to it...and the unhealthy behavior continues into separation. Part of it is also paranoia and the lack of knowledge about the court process and what is relevant and irrelevant.
If it not going to be a legal bit in the ass later then, I will pass on the info.
Her religious choices and how she uses her access time with the child when it comes to religion...really isn't an issue unless your bf starts having communication issues because of it.
Detaching from this when we plan after all this is said and done to merge our familles...is very difficult when Holidays will be celebrated together including the new Holy Hamster day!
You might as well start practicing detachment. You're going to have a lot of real problems with creating non-existing ones. You need to change how you react to stupidity and unreasonable behavior. Shrug it off, laugh about it together when the kids are out of the house, etc...but always stay child-focused and not focused on the ex's HC nonsense and eventually things will settle down.
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Originally posted by oink View PostHmmmm..the problem with religion, just like race, stems from people that can't seem to tolerate others...i.e. Xenophobia
I grew up in a city of now over 7 million people, and I can tell you that apart from being able to understand a bit of every language, and exposure to the different cultures and race, one thing I absolutely loved was the different reliogious holidays and the food.
I have been into a every place of worship there is...can't even believe people are getting worked up over this in a separation agreement. Now if it was the kid not having the last name of something, that would have been more interesting
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Originally posted by oink View PostHmmmm..the problem with religion, just like race, stems from people that can't seem to tolerate others...i.e. Xenophobia
I grew up in a city of now over 7 million people, and I can tell you that apart from being able to understand a bit of every language, and exposure to the different cultures and race, one thing I absolutely loved was the different reliogious holidays and the food.
I have been into a every place of worship there is...can't even believe people are getting worked up over this in a separation agreement. Now if it was the kid not having the last name of something, that would have been more interesting
Oh by the way the church is having a bake sale and I want D4 to go...that what will happen...but on the front nothing on paper will stop this from happining.
HAVE A Great Thanksgiving everyone!
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Good Mom....
Don't make a mountain out of a mole hill. While religion may be a contentious issue, it's of persons choosing. Sometimes in Family Law it's a primary issue, sometimes it may be a distraction from other issues (money, custody, access, etc.). Family Law is a game..... legal strategies, circles, circumventing, red herrings, etc.
It's a game. Now your priorities without getting messed up in the bullshit....
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Originally posted by Pursuinghappiness View Post
I absolutely cannot see it actually. Most people...whether they practice religion or not, get time off during these holidays. So they become days that each parent will split up reasonably in order to gain access time for the children. No court is going to say that Christmas is only a holiday for christians and therefore the father has no right to claim his access time...
I don't remember if the judge ruled the same about Christmas.
I agree that it likely won't be used in a sole custody case but I can see how it might be used. It didn't decrease Dad's quantity of time but he sure wouldn't have been seeing the Easter Bunny come....
Let me see if I can dig up the link.
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