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Originally posted by Sk8rSee my above post. Because my ex pays child support - he refuses to spend a single penny above and beyond that for the kids. And he does not pay ANY section 7 expenses because I do not ask him to.
I think what he pays in Child Support is adequate, but I get tired of hearing him complain about it.
And for the record - he sees the kids every other weekend and half of all holidays. So no 50-50 scenario here.
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Originally posted by Decent DadWell besides his poor attitude with/to the children, I assume you mean he does not buy things. Like items. Because he must feed them at least and provide the basics of life when they are with him.
So I must ask, do you feel he should be buying things. Books? Toys? DVD's? Am I to understand you feel he should buy those things, and pay full support.
And I will admit that I don't mind paying for every item and every expense they incur -even the wedding clothes. What I do mind is the pettiness and the WHINING. Truth is my financial situation IS better than his - but he CHOSE to marry a fulltime student with 2 kids that he now has to support in addition to his own two children. He cries injustice. To me it's a matter of priority.
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Decent Dad
Thank you for mentioning the topic of new children.
As I sit here and read all of these posts I keep thinking to me self what about my son. My husband has two children from his first marriage, one of which he still is required to pay CS for. We also have a son together, and every day I wonder where is the law that protects his SOL. Our son does have the benefit have having both of us together, but at the same time because we are together he has no rights as to his SOL. Nothing against the children, they do not get to decide if they are born into the first or second relationship, but the law needs to treat them all as equals. The child support is based on my husbands GROSS INCOME before deductions. 446/per month for 1. His yearly deductions for last year, taxes, ei, cpp came to about $15,000.00 CS for the year is about 5300.00. So right off the top $20,000.00 is coming off, that he never see's .
Child 1 - benefit of parent earning $52000,00 year
Child 2 - 32,000.00 per year is what this Childs SOL is based on.
I'm curious to hear what other people think about this?
Does anyone think that the current CS law should factor in other children?
yes or no?
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jenibri,
Just a scenario, If something would happen to you and your current husband and all of a sudden he had to pay support for your child it would be based on his gross salary amount of $ 52000 per year and not $ 32000. The courts would also not consider the amount of child support he was paying for the first child from the first relationship.
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That is a thought that has crossed my mind a few times.
But does that not just go to show how weird our law's are. For my son to be considered equal, we would have to be separated.
Another area where my son would loss.
-Scenerio number 1-
parents still together
Let's say when he finishes HighSchool and comes home one day and tells us. Mom & Dad I really want to go to "post secondary school" can you pay for it? We actually can say No . We could tell him, find a job and pay for it yourself. Correct me if I am wrong please, but there is no law that says we must provide for him beyond 18 (age of majority were we live) & that we must pay for his post secondary education.
when he is ready to pursure a post seconday education. We will help him, but I 'm just trying to make a point.
- Scenerio number 2-
Child Support
Child wants to pursure post seconday education, Paying parent has to continue to support this child and pay for the costs of the education.
My point is again, What protects the child "financially" when his parents are still together? Nothing....
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With regard to the complaints about the SOL for subsequent children being impacted by paying child support for the previous-born children... OF COURSE the standard of living is less for those subsequent children! You don't just wipe the slate clean when you start a new family! It's not like scrapping an old car, buying a new one, and still having to pay insurance for the old one.. The children from the 'old' relationship still exist! The fact that financial support is needed for those children is well within the scope of one's knowledge when they decide to create more children.
Originally posted by jenibriDecent Dad
Thank you for mentioning the topic of new children.
As I sit here and read all of these posts I keep thinking to me self what about my son. My husband has two children from his first marriage, one of which he still is required to pay CS for. We also have a son together, and every day I wonder where is the law that protects his SOL. Our son does have the benefit have having both of us together, but at the same time because we are together he has no rights as to his SOL. Nothing against the children, they do not get to decide if they are born into the first or second relationship, but the law needs to treat them all as equals. The child support is based on my husbands GROSS INCOME before deductions. 446/per month for 1. His yearly deductions for last year, taxes, ei, cpp came to about $15,000.00 CS for the year is about 5300.00. So right off the top $20,000.00 is coming off, that he never see's .
Child 1 - benefit of parent earning $52000,00 year
Child 2 - 32,000.00 per year is what this Childs SOL is based on.
I'm curious to hear what other people think about this?
Does anyone think that the current CS law should factor in other children?
yes or no?
In addition to you and your husband choosing to have children knowing he has Child 1 to support, you're forgetting about the other side of the coin. If the subsequent spouse made $100,000 per year, the father's child support amount is still only based on his income, not the combined income of his new family. If that was the case in your family, your child's SOL would be based on an income of $152,000 (less deductions), less $5300 CS.
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Originally posted by jenibriMy point is again, What protects the child "financially" when his parents are still together? Nothing....
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Originally posted by sasha1You can choose to spend the same amount of $5300 per year on that child as you do on Child 1, or you spend more, or you spend less. You have choices to make about the kind of lifestyle you'll have (size/type of living accomodations, whether or not to have car payments and how much, clothing budget, etc.) that directly impact how much of your spendable income will be spent to the benefit of your child.
$5,300 is not a lot of money to raise a child when you think about food, shelter & clothing. Divide that by 365 day of the year and your talking approx. $14.50 per day. I can tell you, I have teenagers and they eat more than that in a day
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Originally posted by jenibriThat is a thought that has crossed my mind a few times.
But does that not just go to show how weird our law's are. For my son to be considered equal, we would have to be separated.
Another area where my son would loss.
-Scenerio number 1-
parents still together
Let's say when he finishes HighSchool and comes home one day and tells us. Mom & Dad I really want to go to "post secondary school" can you pay for it? We actually can say No . We could tell him, find a job and pay for it yourself. Correct me if I am wrong please, but there is no law that says we must provide for him beyond 18 (age of majority were we live) & that we must pay for his post secondary education.
when he is ready to pursure a post seconday education. We will help him, but I 'm just trying to make a point.
- Scenerio number 2-
Child Support
Child wants to pursure post seconday education, Paying parent has to continue to support this child and pay for the costs of the education.
My point is again, What protects the child "financially" when his parents are still together? Nothing....
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