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Old 05-14-2019, 08:39 AM
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My question is about the relative merits of a Section 30 vs. the OCL, with regard to identifying and addressing severe parental alienation. My ex is claiming my 11 and 15 yo refuse to talk to me, which i unfortunately don't doubt based on displayed hostility.

Does the OCL have the capacity to identify severe alienation? And more importantly, order family therapy with me and my kids to address it?

FWIW, I am in Halton region, Ontario if anyone has any professional references of specialists to engage.

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Old 05-14-2019, 10:17 AM
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Hello,



My question is about the relative merits of a Section 30 vs. the OCL, with regard to identifying and addressing severe parental alienation. My ex is claiming my 11 and 15 yo refuse to talk to me, which i unfortunately don't doubt based on displayed hostility.



Does the OCL have the capacity to identify severe alienation? And more importantly, order family therapy with me and my kids to address it?



FWIW, I am in Halton region, Ontario if anyone has any professional references of specialists to engage.



Thanks.


Hello, I just went through the OCL process. I can tell you my ex accused me of alienation. Even though the kids see him regularly and donít miss access.

The OCL clinician came to the conclusion that the boys are having severe anxiety and difficulty with dad due to the way he treats/parents them and they are feeling alienated due to dads actions. She based this off of what the children talked to her about. Also that there therapists backed this up by what the children confided in their therapists about.

So... OCL is free. Itís a timely process and your case may get denied.

For me it has been worth it as I now have another piece of third party evidence to back all I have been saying in my court case.

Ocl also recommenced parenting classes to dad and dad/child therapy sessions.

Sadly this is all just recommendations. Unless you go to trial and the judge orders it, it canít be enforced.

Best of luck.


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Old 05-14-2019, 12:19 PM
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Thank you for your response. Was there any interaction between the clinician and yourself and/or ex?
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Thank you for your response. Was there any interaction between the clinician and yourself and/or ex?


Ok so this is how OCL works.

Both parties Mirror each other.

Initial interview with both parents.

Then observation in each home.

Child interviews in each home. As many as needed. My clinician saw the kids twice at my home and once at dads.

Then you have follow up phone calls and interviews with the clinician. Basically they tell you what the other parents complaints are and you have to respond or explain your side.

Also you can provide collaterals for the clinician to speak with. Drís, therapists. School teachers, coaches. Grandparents. Anyone who can help validate your concerns or convey what they see is going on.


Then their is a disclosure meeting with the two parties and their Lawyers as to what the clinician is recommending.

If you google Office of the Childrenís Lawyer the website explains a lot.


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