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Old 07-10-2012, 07:38 PM
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plky - sometimes we have to examine and re-evaluate our friendships and realize that friendship has it's limits and it might be a good time for them to seek professional help. I'd take a good hard look at things before getting any more involved.
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i don't think it is rare the biggest one that comes to mind i think is r vs askov

there were thousands of stays based on this case
Do the math on that... Thousands in comparison to the amount of matters before the court. Statistically speaking it is rare. Less than 1-2% of cases in total.
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would not providing duty counsel also be considered breach of charter rights? when i was first arrested the cops said i have a right to speak to a duty counsel if i wish to, and i said yes i do want to. then they asked me if i know any place i can stay that night, and they asked for the numbers etc, which i gave them, then they took me downstairs for release, and i asked the officer, am i not going to be talking to a lawyer first? the officer said "stop the video" to his subordinate, and then told me "we are releasing you, you know that right?" i said "yes" he said "start the video" and i was released ...

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would not providing duty counsel also be considered breach of charter rights? when i was first arrested the cops said i have a right to speak to a duty counsel if i wish to, and i said yes i do want to. then they asked me if i know any place i can stay that night, and they asked for the numbers etc, which i gave them, then they took me downstairs for release, and i asked the officer, am i not going to be talking to a lawyer first? the officer said "stop the video" to his subordinate, and then told me "we are releasing you, you know that right?" i said "yes" he said "start the video" and i was released ...

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I call bullshit on this one big time. The recording would include a major break in the stream and include a recording of the request to stop recording. Under evidence the break in the recording would make it useless for the police and yourself. So if it happened just simply ask for a copy of the recording or have your lawyer ask for a copy of the recording.
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Already asked few months ago, the crown has not provided the video yet. though if its useless for me then there is no point. but it certainly would have me on video asking them about the lawyer and them requesting to stop, so that should go against the cops, shouldn't it?
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I think you watch too much TV - your rights are different in Canada than the US
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I think you watch too much TV - your rights are different in Canada than the US
funny fact, i dont watch TV at all. i dont have cable or satellite, so what you "think" is obviously incorrect!

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they are the biggest organized GANG in the country......
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would not providing duty counsel also be considered breach of charter rights? when i was first arrested the cops said i have a right to speak to a duty counsel if i wish to, and i said yes i do want to. then they asked me if i know any place i can stay that night, and they asked for the numbers etc, which i gave them, then they took me downstairs for release, and i asked the officer, am i not going to be talking to a lawyer first? the officer said "stop the video" to his subordinate, and then told me "we are releasing you, you know that right?" i said "yes" he said "start the video" and i was released ...

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How long were you at the police station??
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So sorry you had to go through that! From what I understand, in my friend's case the judge ruled that the searching officer had insufficient grounds to justify the search, and also did not follow proper procedure (he avoided certain steps which would have prevented the search from proceeding to the next level.)

Thank you for the article link. The Toronto Police Accountability Coalition that are quoted in it have published the Toronto Police strip search policy

Toronto Police Accountability Coalition : Bulletins

Maybe it will help you determine whether your charter rights were violated.

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ok hold on, the charges were stayed because the judge ruled strip search was illegal? that would kill 60% of the cases in toronto as 60% people get strip searched

60% of Toronto arrests lead to strip searches - Toronto - CBC News

please please do post the canlii on this, I was also strip searched, may be its class action lawsuit time!
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