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Old 05-03-2011, 11:12 AM
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Now Conservative got the majority, and Mr. Maurice Vellacott who brought up Bill C-422 for equal parenting seemed to have got re-elected. What will happen for the private member's bill now?

Will it be re introduced again and be re lined up for voting, or it can be voted in the fall as it had stood before the election was called in March?

Any thought on this from those who know the parliament system?
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:39 AM
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422 died with the previous parliament.

There is no bill in existence at the present time.

The bill may be reintroduced by Mr Vellecott if he choses to do so, but nothing is done automatically.

The reintroduced bill will start from scratch, meaning three readings, committee, senate etc.

If you want to take action the first thing to do would be to write Vellecott.
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:49 AM
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422 died with the previous parliament.

There is no bill in existence at the present time.

The bill may be reintroduced by Mr Vellecott if he choses to do so, but nothing is done automatically.

The reintroduced bill will start from scratch, meaning three readings, committee, senate etc.

If you want to take action the first thing to do would be to write Vellecott.
Should we, at least for those concerned Moms and Dads in this forum, do something, by collectively sending Vellecott a letter?

Or can someone think of any better idea to have this Bill re introduced?
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:50 AM
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One thing you can do as well is talk to your local MP and see if they will introduce some form of Equal Parenting bill. Maybe use the Parliamentary Joint Committee For the Sake of the Children as a guideline.
I am wondering how to get it so that it is not a private members bill but actually brought forth by the party?
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:59 AM
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One thing you can do as well is talk to your local MP and see if they will introduce some form of Equal Parenting bill. Maybe use the Parliamentary Joint Committee For the Sake of the Children as a guideline.
I am wondering how to get it so that it is not a private members bill but actually brought forth by the party?
Conservative has a majority, I think Mr. Maurice Vellacott should be able to get some support from his own party. NDP is pro family, at least from what it states publicly, so I hope Jack shouldn't be against the idea of equal parenting.

Seems we have a good chance this time around. If the Bill is re introduced, there will be a guaranteed four year's time ahead for it to withstand the reading, voting etc...

What do you guys think? Shouldn't we do something?
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Old 05-03-2011, 12:08 PM
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With a new government there will be a new cabinet.

Divorce is the domain of the department of justice and the federal attorney general. Right now, addressing a letter to just the department in general will go nowhere but the recycle bin. When a new attorney general/minister of justice is named, addressing that mp specifically will be a better bet.

Writing Vellacott and writing your own MP will also help.
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Conservative has a majority, I think Mr. Maurice Vellacott should be able to get some support from his own party. NDP is pro family, at least from what it states publicly, so I hope Jack shouldn't be against the idea of equal parenting.

Seems we have a good chance this time around. If the Bill is re introduced, there will be a guaranteed four year's time ahead for it to withstand the reading, voting etc...

What do you guys think? Shouldn't we do something?
I am in whatever we can do... I probably not good candidate to write a letter but I will put my signature under one...

I also wondering. Let's assume we got bill withing next 4 years. What will happened with old cases? I meant can you imagine number of cases will brought back ?
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Old 05-03-2011, 12:17 PM
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Old cases won't be reopened. It would be chaos to reopen every case where a parent wants to challenge custody based on a new law. In most situations the children are settled into new lives and another sudden change isn't in their best interest.

Custody can be reopened if there is a material change in circumstance, and a new law could be applied then, but still unlikely to trump status quo. A significant change would show that the child's life is no longer settled or status quo anyway, so new considerations and laws would be introduced but you still have to make your arguments.
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Its True WorkingDad. We have so many old cases that may not even be ready for equal parenting, we would need to create a transition time for old cases, where we phase into equal parenting so that it is not an abrupt change for the child.
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Old 05-03-2011, 12:21 PM
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Old cases won't be reopened. It would be chaos to reopen every case where a parent wants to challenge custody based on a new law. In most situations the children are settled into new lives and another sudden change isn't in their best interest.

Custody can be reopened if there is a material change in circumstance, and a new law could be applied then, but still unlikely to trump status quo. A significant change would show that the child's life is no longer settled or status quo anyway, so new considerations and laws would be introduced but you still have to make your arguments.
I completely agree with what you saying but I would think that having the new law will probably increase chances to get it right next time ...

Even if I will not benefit from it I AM STILL ALL HANDS UP for it. Fro future kids and their parents and especially fathers (yea I do not like how family law treat fathers in Canada...)
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