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If Target chooses not to sell a certain product, that is their choice.
I think their reasoning could have been less specific though. They should've said they chose not to sell it because it is violent. Full Stop. Violence against women is covered under their reasoning of violence. But saying they aren't selling the game because it is violent against women, while selling other games that show violence against men, is hypocritical. You are either against all violence or you're not.
That said, there are tons of games that have the hero slicing and shooting through mountains of men and women, all those are fine. I've never played GTA, it simply doesn't appeal to me, so I don't know what the particular violence this game represents that is any different then me sniping a male/female in Call of Duty.
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Catering to women, who are responsible for the lion's share of shopping for their families, is a brilliant marketing move. Specifically excepting a product from your shelves that promotes violence against women and publicising your exception is merely another marketing move.
I've never been a "TarJay" kind of girl, but if they make this kind of corporate move, I'll support them in the future.
As to Cosby - well, I suspect he has no marketing moves left.Start a discussion, not a fire. Post with kindness.
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I'm confused as to why Target suddenly decided to ban GTA V, or why this is even in the news suddenly, except that it is marketing, or trying to cater to a certain demographic, with recent news events? Target is not doing well financially, at all.
GTA V has been out since 2013, in one console form or another. It's only suddenly, that it's now coming out/or has come out, for more recent game console systems.
All the prior GTA releases included violence, where, some of that violence was involving the "female" characters in the game. Nothing new there.
Banning a game, just makes it more sought after, from other retailers.
The game's publisher (Rockstargames) will love this.
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Originally posted by HammerDad View PostIf Target chooses not to sell a certain product, that is their choice.
I think their reasoning could have been less specific though. They should've said they chose not to sell it because it is violent. Full Stop. Violence against women is covered under their reasoning of violence. But saying they aren't selling the game because it is violent against women, while selling other games that show violence against men, is hypocritical. You are either against all violence or you're not.
That said, there are tons of games that have the hero slicing and shooting through mountains of men and women, all those are fine. I've never played GTA, it simply doesn't appeal to me, so I don't know what the particular violence this game represents that is any different then me sniping a male/female in Call of Duty.
Both glorify violence, but GTA glorifies crime as well, and is misogynist. For Target to portray that they singled it out for the violence against women is, as Mcdreamy suggested, probably a marketing ploy. There are other games that glorify crime and other games that are misogynist but I guess they don't have the publicity of GTA.Last edited by Rioe; 12-05-2014, 12:57 PM.
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Originally posted by wantmyfreedom View Post...relating to a video game that appeals to the degenerates of society...
GTA 5 (or any of its earlier versions), is not my type of game, but there are completely normal folks who play it, because it is just that...a video game.
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Originally posted by dad2bandm View PostI think that's a large net you are casting there in applying your label.
GTA 5 (or any of its earlier versions), is not my type of game, but there are completely normal folks who play it, because it is just that...a video game.
Your definition of normal is different from mine. I strongly believe that anyone playing a game that depicts this level violence is disturbed. I'll even say sadistic.
Much like watching child porn. It is so damn wrong.
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Originally posted by dad2bandm View PostGTA 5 (or any of its earlier versions), is not my type of game, but there are completely normal folks who play it, because it is just that...a video game.
Anything that glorifies crime (video games, movies, TV, parents, older siblings, gang members in the bad neighbourhood, etc) can desensitize people to it, make it seem normal, make it seem easy, make it seem cool. Mature people can resist this, but for some, and especially impressionable people who have not finished forming their identity, it's insidious and can promote development of many antisocial attitudes.
Parents who suitably monitor their children's consumption of such media can offset this with appropriate discussion, but we all know that happens less than we would like.
Good thing this thread was off-topic to begin with!
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Originally posted by mcdreamy View PostCatering to women, who are responsible for the lion's share of shopping for their families, is a brilliant marketing move. Specifically excepting a product from your shelves that promotes violence against women and publicising your exception is merely another marketing move.
I've never been a "TarJay" kind of girl, but if they make this kind of corporate move, I'll support them in the future.
As to Cosby - well, I suspect he has no marketing moves left.
^^^ well put. A wise political, marketing, economic, and moral move on Target's part.
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Originally posted by wantmyfreedom View Post...I strongly believe that anyone playing a game that depicts this level violence is disturbed. I'll even say sadistic.
Much like watching child porn. It is so damn wrong.
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Originally posted by Rioe View Post...impressionable people who have not finished forming their identity, it's insidious and can promote development of many antisocial attitudes.
Parents who suitably monitor their children's consumption of such media can...
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Originally posted by Rioe View PostTo my mind, the difference in the violence is the criminality of it. In CoD you are a soldier shooting enemies in warfare. In GTA, you are a criminal stealing cars, shooting innocent bystanders and murdering prostitutes.
Both glorify violence, but GTA glorifies crime as well, and is misogynist. For Target to portray that they singled it out for the violence against women is, as Mcdreamy suggested, probably a marketing ploy. There are other games that glorify crime and other games that are misogynist but I guess they don't have the publicity of GTA.
I am not suggesting that GTA V is in anyway a good game or whatever. I've never played, it isn't my type of game. It is a violent game. But if your sole beef with it is that there is violence against women, you are focusing on a very small part of the actual problem with the game. And the actual problem is that is too violent and glorifies crime....of all kinds....against everyone.
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