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Old 11-23-2010, 12:01 PM
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My ex and I live in different provinces so my children fly to go see their father. Normally the flights are booked using the unaccompanied minor program offered through the airline. So far their have been no issues with them flying.

However, the up-coming Christmas vist he has booked them on a different airline that does not offer the unaccompanied minor program at all. The oldest is almost 14 and the little one is 10. I am not very keen on doing this at all. Although the kids have no issues flying my big worry is the what ifs. What if the flight is re-routed, or the dad was late picking them up etc. The oldest is only 14 and the Toronto airport is a scary place even for myself never mind her in the event he was not there to get them on time or someting.

There is quite a price difference between the airlines but I feel there safety is worth it. The flight is also in the middle of the night as well wich is ok but my kids are upset about it.

I told my ex how I feel and my concerns and got a belligerant email in return.

What do you think? Would you make a big deal out of it?
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Old 11-23-2010, 12:07 PM
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Offer to pay the difference to shut him up.
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Old 11-23-2010, 12:16 PM
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my thoughts too. If he is not willing to pony up the fare to provide better safety and peace of mind, then do it yourself.
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Old 11-23-2010, 12:17 PM
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That would be an easy solution dadtotheend, The big issue I have with this though is he significantly pays less child support than he should due to the "high costs of access". It should not be a money thing but I don't think he should comprimise the kids to save a buck.

I gave him options, he did not want to change the flights. They are already bought and non-refundable.

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Old 11-23-2010, 12:20 PM
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Sorry also to mention, the do not offer any UM program on this airline for me to purchase on the side or I would.
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Old 11-23-2010, 12:48 PM
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According to Air Canada's web site, the unaccompanied minors program is optional after age of 11.

Unaccompanied Minors - Air Canada

Who needs to be accompanied?
Children under 8 years must be accompanied by an adult aged 16 or older.

It is mandatory to use unaccompanied minor (UM) services for children aged 8-11 years which include being escorted by Air Canada agents and/or flight attendants. Unaccompanied minor service is optional for children aged 12-17 traveling alone.

This is pretty reasonable but it is only one airline. What airline are they flying with?

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Old 11-23-2010, 12:53 PM
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Thanks Pharah, I had thought it was mandatory for 12 and under unless they were travelling with a person who is at least 16.

I guess what I want to know is would other people as a parent be cool with it or am I just overly cautious. There is nothing in the order that reflects this unfortunatly.
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Old 11-23-2010, 12:57 PM
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Sorry pharah, I did not see the rest of the post. I was told after 12 they are ok to fly on their own. I usually fly them on air canada but he has booked them with west jet. They do not offer this but offer a very discounted ticket for him to accompany them. He would have to fly here than return. He has refused this as well. I know west jet's policy is different. My olest pays an adult fare so they assume she is an adult.
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Ok, this is what I found the the westjet site:

If your child is between the age of two and 11, an adult must accompany them. If your child is 12 years of age or older, they may travel alone. Please note: Youth, 16 years of age and under, who are travelling without a parent or legal guardian, are considered minors by the Bahamian government. If your child is travelling to the Bahamas alone, they must have a notarized letter of permission from their parents or guardians.
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Old 11-23-2010, 01:02 PM
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Also there is this section:
WestJet's guardian fare program
The WestJet guardian fare program allows parents or a guardian to escort their children at a substantially reduced rate. To qualify for this reduced rate, you or the guardian escorting your child or children must return immediately to your city of origin after arrival.

For reservations and any questions, please call WestJet at 1-800-581-9499.
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