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Political Issues This forum is for discussing the political aspects of divorce: reform to divorce laws, men's rights, women's rights, injustices in the divorce system, etc.

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Old 10-01-2013, 01:07 PM
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we have to stand together we have to get vocal and we need to organize. I have said many times already I am in and will help anyway I can but i need more than just one or three people. Lets set up a meeting.
I totally agree...let's figure out what we can all do together on a united front!
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:47 PM
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I'm in also. Add SS to this and lets see what we can do.
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Old 10-07-2013, 05:08 PM
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I'm in also. Add SS to this and lets see what we can do.
It's unfortunate that so many OP's are struggling just to make ends meet on a day-to-day basis, and are unable to give their child(ren) the things they would like to give them because most or all of their disposable income goes to exes who use the money largely for themselves, in order to improve their own standard of living.
It is so unfair.
And many OP's, most of them men of course, just sit back and do what they think they need to do without questioning anything...these men need to stand up and give a voice to their feelings. While it may be true that the system will not change overnight, it is okay to stand up for what we believe is just and right.
We need to put our heads together and find out what can be done.
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Old 10-07-2013, 05:29 PM
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Just a thought, but perhaps....

See if a GOOD Family Law firm thinks there is a chance for some type of class action claim and a rough idea of the money it would take.

THEN, try and publicize a fund raising campaign, perhaps through social media, at least initially. I suspect most payors (typically male) would be more than happy to throw in at least $100 to get the ball rolling.

Another idea would be to try and get a large media outlet (National Post seems to have run some payor sympathetic articles in the past) to take on the cause. Its amazing how much of am impact a large media campaign can have on political action - and how quickly in some cases !

Illustrate the many cases where payors have been made destitute and show the public how there is basically NO accountability that CS be spent on the kids. Let alone insanity such as the case where a truck driver had his license pulled - how can the guy earn money when they take away his livelihood ?

The whole concept of SS is crazy too - maybe a most a few years but not for life !!!! SS should be negotiated at time of marriage in a pre-nup, the default being no agreement = NO SS. If the partner doesn't like it, then don't get married !! Simple as that.

The idea that one person would be a leech/parasite on the hard working spouse, potentially for life, is simply unacceptable. Why do we not have debtors prison EXCEPT for CS. Funny how the "primary parent" can deny access to a child with little to no consequences (have they EVER jailed a primary provider (usually female) for denying access ???). Why is the law only enforced selectively.

I strongly suspect if the majority of Canadians realized how unfair Family Law is there would be a HUGE backlash - many of the laws simply defy common sense let alone fairness.

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Old 10-07-2013, 08:02 PM
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Ok guys...where's the best place to start?

Should we start a new subject thread inviting whomever is interested to join us?


After that point should we set up a meeting to get our heads together and discuss our options?


Open to suggestions...
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Old 10-07-2013, 08:16 PM
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Maybe also use social media as mentioned above to assess interest?
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Old 10-10-2013, 03:44 PM
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Cant let this one go. Need to collectively look at some options.
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Old 10-11-2013, 10:27 AM
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There is no harm in making ourselves heard, even if nothing comes out of it in the end...i think that a lot of people would feel better just knowing that their issues and concerns have had a voice, and that there are tons of people out there who feel the exact same way.
Strength in numbers...united we stand, divided we fall.
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Old 10-11-2013, 03:44 PM
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Shouldn't the government have some sort of mandatory educational course for anyone that gets married put into place? Child support for your own kids should be paid, however if 50/50 custody is granted this does not make sense and should be eliminated. SS should be completely eliminated also as this is a complete joke. I’m pretty sure (could be wrong) that the constitutional rights might be violated?? Sorry but any man/woman should not be responsible to support their ex-spouse for the rest of their life. All in all its wrong!
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Old 10-11-2013, 03:51 PM
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Shouldn't the government have some sort of mandatory educational course for anyone that gets married put into place? Child support for your own kids should be paid, however if 50/50 custody is granted this does not make sense and should be eliminated. SS should be completely eliminated also as this is a complete joke. I’m pretty sure (could be wrong) that the constitutional rights might be violated?? Sorry but any man/woman should not be responsible to support their ex-spouse for the rest of their life. All in all its wrong!
I'm sorry, the role of the government should not be to protect you from absolutely every thing that could possibly go wrong.

If you want to get married, then do some research. Its a contract like buying a house or a car. It has obligations and responsibilities, and they are not that difficult to research especially now.

If it was unconstitutional to have spousal support some rich person would have already taken it to the Supreme court. People go for far more trivial things. Please demonstrate where in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms it says you can't pay spousal support. (or sign up for payday loans at outrageous rates, or any number of other bad things).

Just because it is wrong or unfair, doesn't mean its illegal or unconstitutional.
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