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Father ordered to pay child support to his ex...3 of 4 kids not his.
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I'd be curious...
I'd be curious to know, if the other 3 kids, have the same different Dad, or if they have different DNA from each other even?
I'm not sure how this is even in the best interests of the kids - if the other kids have Dads, those Dads should be contributing as well - not lumping it all on 1 schmuck. But that is how it is, in the current Family Law system.
"Mom" sounds like a real winner, for sure.
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It's pretty common that judges measure "best interests of the children" in dollars and cents.
In this case, he IS their Father and raised them, they were a family unit, and thus although on one level it's not fair, it's completely understandable that he should support the children he raised for 16 years.
It's a very clear case of loco parentis. If he wasn't acting in the role of their father, who else was?
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Originally posted by FightingForFamily View PostIt's pretty common that judges measure "best interests of the children" in dollars and cents.
In this case, he IS their Father and raised them, they were a family unit, and thus although on one level it's not fair, it's completely understandable that he should support the children he raised for 16 years.
It's a very clear case of loco parentis. If he wasn't acting in the role of their father, who else was?
Poor guy - 3/4 of your kids are not yours!! How devastating is that?
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Does anyone know or have a copy of this caselaw. I would be interested in reading it.
From the article, the father helped raise the children for 16 years as his own.
I know my next statement will probably be taken the wrong way by some people, but here goes anyway.
From a child focused perspective, he was perhaps their only father.
Without reading more information into it, we don't know where the biological father / or fathers are, if they are still alive or passed away or if they are completely unknown.
If the courts knew who the biological father was, I believe the law requires that child support is first paid by the biological father but if the child does consider this father as their father then he does have a responsibility to pay child support. That said he also has a claim for access and custody as well.
If Tayken was still on here I'm sure he would have caselaw explaining the reasoning behind this ruling. Perhaps he will come back one day.
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Originally posted by FightingForFamily View PostIn this case, he IS their Father and raised them, they were a family unit, and thus although on one level it's not fair, it's completely understandable that he should support the children he raised for 16 years.
I wonder what kind of questioning/investigation was done, to determine the other father(s), though?
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If Tayken was still on here I'm sure he would have caselaw explaining the reasoning behind this ruling. Perhaps he will come back one day.
Anyway, what I found curious about this story is that he demanded DNA tests of children post-separation when they were 12,14,16 years of age. It would be interesting to know what he found out that he realized that there was a potential issue.
From the children's point of view, he is their father, however and I truly hope his custody/access arrangement was favorable. It sounds like they need to spend time with their dad because their mother sounds questionable.
No doubt, the mother of these children is a scoundrel for pulling the wool over this man's eyes.<!-- / message --><!-- edit note -->
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Originally posted by Pursuinghappiness View Post'Tis quite a shame that one of the most sage posters to the board was driven away...I also hope that he reconsiders coming back to the board.
Anyway, what I found curious about this story is that he demanded DNA tests of children post-separation when they were 12,14,16 years of age. It would be interesting to know what he found out that he realized that there was a potential issue.
From the children's point of view, he is their father, however and I truly hope his custody/access arrangement was favorable. It sounds like they need to spend time with their dad because their mother sounds questionable.
No doubt, the mother of these children is a scoundrel for pulling the wool over this man's eyes.<!-- / message --><!-- edit note -->
Perhap she told him in an emtional fight that they weren't his, in hopes that he would walk away. Who knows without more facts.
Lets keep it to the facts we do know, and discuss the law around this.
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For all we know he could have known they weren't his from the start, the sperm might be from a sperm bank, we don't know at this point.
I stand by what I said. I feel sorry for this gentleman as it sounds like the mother is probably a scoundrel. My opinion and I'll state it as I please, thank you very much.
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Tayken would refer to loco parentis. He acted as their Father and thus under the law, he IS their father when it comes to matters of support.
Even if the bio-dad(s) were to be found, it's questionable whether they would be ordered to pay and if so, how much, due to loco parentis after 16 years of status quo.
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"To make matters worse, his ex-wife told him his three daughters were all fathered by different men, he said.
The man said he was aware his wife cheated on him several times, but was floored when he discovered the results.
“I was naive ... I never thought I could not be the father of my children,” he said"Toronto Sun
His wife is a b*&%*.Im guessing she probably never worked either.How else would she get the time to screw around that much?
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FYI...
We do know what kind of woman that particular Mom is...it's now in the story details. All 3 girls, fathered by different men. She is, by the very definition of the word, a sl#t. I'm not sure how else that can be viewed, in her particular circumstance?
And the father in question, ordered to pay support for all the kids, admitted to being "naive". That's "understating it".
So again, let the story serve as a reminder, for those who think they won't have to pay support, for kids that are not biologically theirs.
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But for argument sake, if it turns out that she did PLAY him all these years, what should be her punishment then, or is that a sensitive matter because of her gender?
The man sounds like he was a bit foolish. Perhaps, like a lot of people with cheating partners...he spent a lot of time in denial looking the other way...who knows?
The woman is obviously completely indefensible but she doesn't deserve punishment...the biggest victims here are the children.
Regardless of biology, this man is their father. He should pay CS, as such...but more importantly, I hope he gets a fair custody/access agreement because I'm sure that the children will need him.
Lets not turn this into "all women are evil sluts who should be punished" hour please.
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