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Originally posted by OhMy View PostReminds me of the book...'it's all your fault', by William Eddy.
Hmmmm
By William Eddy
I would agree with you OhMy that it reads as this book and the other one:
High Conflict People in Legal Disputes
By William Eddy
Frenchy, it would be in your best interests to buy these books, read them, understand them and better organize your thoughts prior to posting to this message board.
Good Luck!
Tayken
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Originally posted by frenchy View PostWell if you look around if its 50/50 its the women that want it like this to be free and do her own thing but if she want to make her ex miserable they get what they want 90% of the Time.
Note the same blanket statement, with no supporting evidence. Just a statement of "belief" and no supporting statement. So lest we not project blame that I identify this pattern of behaviour in those posters coming with "domestic violence" stories of one gender only.
You are all free to remain sad and tired with your arguments and silent distortion campaign against me in PMs...
This is a common pattern of behaviour of a highly conflicted person and knows no bounds of gender.
All humans are capabile of presenting themselves in the "victim role". It is a well observed pattern of behaviour in social science. It is merely an attempt to "save" one's self to do so.
Again, re-link to this thread as supporting argument to my above statement:
http://www.ottawadivorce.com/forum/f...-mossip-13753/
Specifically this quote from the above case law:
http://canlii.ca/t/frmwh
[19] How this family actually got to the place that I have heard about since May, 2011, only they will know; and they only know through their unique and individual perspectives. As Catherine Gildiner wrote in the preface to her book, After the Falls, (Toronto: Alfred A. Knopf Canada, 2009):
Memory is a tricky business. No two people remember things the same way. Memory is not a recording device; it is the brain’s way of allowing us to select moments in order to interpret our pasts. All the images on file in our brains pass through elaborate screens of unconscious needs and emerge as memories.
To that quote I would add that the filtering process we go through helps us “save” ourselves, so that we can present ourselves in the best light possible. It is only through years of often painful therapy that we can understand how much we may have filtered our own experiences to save ourselves. There is nothing insidious or wrong about this process; it is part of the human brain’s brilliance. It is not someone else telling us we are “wrong” in our memory that gives us insight; it is our own reflecting, with professional assistance, that leads us to that level of awareness and understanding about ourselves.
Good Luck!
TaykenLast edited by Tayken; 01-20-2013, 09:22 PM.
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My daughter was crying cause her mother would hurt her. So does it matter how she waa hurting my 6 years old daughter at the time. I never touch one of my kids and i will never support any type of touching them. But cas did not agree with me.
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Originally posted by Tayken View PostI would disagree not that you are wrong but, that in the analogy you are using, I don't even think that the poster in question is aware that they are (a) cooking something and (b) what the ingredients are for the dish they are trying to serve to the members of this forum.
Yeah, didn't think so
Does it matter that the target is deserving of said verbal assault? I'm not sure that it should. Either we allow this stuff in the forum, or we don't.
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Originally posted by frenchy View PostMy daughter was crying cause her mother would hurt her. So does it matter how she waa hurting my 6 years old daughter at the time. I never touch one of my kids and i will never support any type of touching them. But cas did not agree with me.
See above statement of "fact" made.
Note the vauge details. The projection of blame. The presumption of guilt on the other parent. The results of the investigation of CAS as provided. The continued "belief" in the poster's "story".
One doesn't have to look too hard to identify this as a possible false allegation. The poster contributing this content is demonstrating it themselves. Similar to the baseless allegations that other "domestic violence" advocates spouting Lundy who come to this message board with the same lack of detail and projections of blame and emotional reasoning.
Suffice to say, this poster is quite convinced that the other parent is "guilty" of whatever allegation they have made against that parent. Despite the findings of the CAS.
False allegations know no gender, race, religion or sexual orientation. All humans are equally capable of trying to leverage a false allegation to "win" a custody dispute.
I suspect now the poster will become irate at this comment and threaten or claim that these response are some how "stalking" in some manner. Just a prediction...
Interesting, see the above post from a negative advocate seeking attention again... Couldn't have predicted that one but, it happened. Interesting to say the least. Let the "distortion campaign" begin I guess?
Good Luck!
TaykenLast edited by Tayken; 01-20-2013, 09:41 PM.
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Originally posted by Janus View PostDoes it matter that the target is deserving of said verbal assault? I'm not sure that it should. Either we allow this stuff in the forum, or we don't.
You are also invited to put me on "ignore". You are free to continue your distortion campaign against me. You are well within your rights to do so. I just note that your responses are generally nothing more than insults and generally are personal opinions with no supporting argument other than your feelings about me as a poster. No doubt everyone is bored with your antics. I am as they are transparent.
To this, I recommend the song "Demon of the Fall" for everyone's listening pleasure and for satirical purposes.
Silent dance with Janus.
Everything is lost.
Torn by the arrival of false allegations.
The blink of an eye, you know it's Janus.
Janus keeps the dagger close at hand.
And most posters saw nothing.
False allegations turned to pure hate.
Janus cried a lamentation
before merging with the grey.
No one cares Janus about our disagreement on the points of false allegations, the "bias" of the court. We agree on very little nor do I expect you to like me. No doubt, we have very opposing views on the matters of Family Law. But, there are better and more constructive ways to debate a topic than the way both parties to the debate have been engaging.
In fact, there may be a better way where everyone contributing to this forum could benefit from our opposing views. I challenge you to do this. I for one am not interesting in your petty insults.
Good Luck!
TaykenLast edited by Tayken; 01-20-2013, 09:52 PM.
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Originally posted by Tayken View PostNote the vauge details. The projection of blame. The presumption of guilt on the other parent. The results of the investigation of CAS as provided. The continued "belief" in the poster's "story".
One doesn't have to look too hard to identify this as a possible false allegation.
Why is it so personally important to you?
And don't go on and on. Answer the question. Why is it so personally important to you that posters here are confronted with the issues that YOU perceive?? Who cares if any poster recognizes their level of conflict, their negative advocacy, their false allegations or their emotional issues?
I would submit that YOUR lengthy posts to almost every thread here would provide posters such as the OP the attention they so desperately crave. Perhaps, if you ignored those you thought were simply seeking attention and validation, they would go away quietly? Instead you pontificate about everything and feed them what they so desperately seek. You increase the problem.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_seeking
Finally, your songs and links are getting really bizarre. Not cogent or relevant at all.
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Originally posted by SadAndTired View PostI ask you Tayken, who cares??
Why is it so personally important to you?
Hope this helps you SadAndTired be less "sad" (depressed?) and "tired" (a symptom of depression).
Good Luck!
Tayken
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Oh please Tayken. Way to put me in my place!! Imply things from my choice of handle. LOL.
Do you have children Tayken? Please share with us your current custody situation.
Because again, you are talking to posters who you think have a lot of issues. You are feeding into their need for attention.
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Originally posted by SadAndTired View PostWho cares if any poster recognizes their level of conflict, their negative advocacy, their false allegations or their emotional issues?
Originally posted by SadAndTired View PostI would submit that YOUR lengthy posts to almost every thread here would provide posters such as the OP the attention they so desperately crave.
Originally posted by SadAndTired View PostPerhaps, if you ignored those you thought were simply seeking attention and validation, they would go away quietly?
You yourself are what I hypothesize is someone who constantly plays the victim role. Your postings of your personal and private matter to this forum and with such detail and tenacity are evidence to that fact.
No need to bore learned posters of your story again. Anyone can read your postings to this board to see you motivation to seek "bad advice" and disregard "good advice" generally.
Good Luck!
Tayken
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Originally posted by SadAndTired View PostOh please Tayken. Way to put me in my place!! Imply things from my choice of handle. LOL.
Do you have children Tayken? Please share with us your current custody situation.
Because again, you are talking to posters who you think have a lot of issues. You are feeding into their need for attention.
Good Luck!
Tayken
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A lot more latitude is allowed in the political forum, but this thread is simply degenerating into a series of personal attacks. As OP has left the thread, I'm going to close it now.
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