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Old 10-19-2017, 01:04 PM
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Default SS - who needs a reason?

Recently there was a thread where we were discussing the conditions that would need to be satisfied to make a spousal support claim.

Sometimes, however, it is enough to just be a loser.

http://canlii.ca/t/h6mhw

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[5] For the reasons that follow, I find that Mr. Saunders has not been unjustly enriched by the actions of Ms. Willis, nor has Ms. Willis suffered a corresponding deprivation. I find, however, that Ms. Willis is entitled to a spousal support award as a result of the breakdown of the parties’ relationship, as set out below.
Let's start with a list of why she doesn't deserve spousal support:

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[55] <?XML:NAMESPACE PREFIX = "[default] http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" NS = "http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" /><svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1920 1408"><svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1408">• Ms. Willis clearly has the capacity to contribute to her own support; that she has struggled so to do so to date is somewhat puzzling.</svg></svg>
<svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1920 1408"><svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1408"></svg></svg>
<svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1920 1408"><svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1408">• Mr. Saunders is 36 years of age; Ms. Willis is 39. Both are in good physical and mental health. </svg></svg>
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• The measures Ms. Willis is taking, or the time in which it would be necessary to take them, to provide for her own support, are unclear to me; although Ms. Willis provided a list of job applications which appear to be commiserate with her experience (in the social services or policing/compliance type fields), 15 job applications in three and a half years is not an overwhelming number. I received no evidence, moreover, of any effort on Ms. Willis’ part to retrain, perhaps for a different type of career which would afford her more opportunity.

• Mr. Saunders has a legal obligation to support Ethan. According to his most recent Financial Statement, Mr. Saunders currently pays $618.42 per month in support of Ethan. He also has obligations to his second child and new wife, though the latter is also in the military making approximately $42,000 per year.

• Ms. Willis has not made specific contributions to the realization of Mr. Saunders career potential. He would have gone on his postings and training courses, and he would have attained the rank of Sergeant, with or without Ms. Willis.

• There was no effect on Ms. Willis’s earning capacity which resulted from the responsibilities she assumed during cohabitation; nevertheless the choices she made, in her mind because of the relationship, limited her earning capacity.

• Finally, there was no housekeeping, child care or other domestic service performed by Ms. Willis that prevented her from having remunerative employment such that the time spent at them could be treated as contributions to the earnings to the family’s support. Again, Ms. Willis made choices regarding her own employment over the course of the relationship, most notably when she left the regular services and later when she resigned from her job at CPIC because she did not like the hours.
but...


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[55] <svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1920 1408"><svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1408">• Ms. Willis’ current assets are limited. Mr. Saunders are only slightly less so, though his future prospects are better than those of Ms. Willis in that he does have a military pension which continues to grow.</svg></svg>
<svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1920 1408"><svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1408"></svg></svg>
<svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1920 1408"><svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1408">• Mr. Saunders has the means to support Ms. Willis in that he has an income of $72,790 juxtaposed to her income of only approximately $18,000.
Summary: Ms. Willis doesn't deserve spousal support for any reason whatsoever, other than the fact that she sucks at life. She got SS anyway. </svg></svg></svg></svg>
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<svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1920 1408"><svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1408"><svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1920 1408"><svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1408">Oh, actual judge's reasoning:</svg></svg></svg></svg>
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[57] Ms. Willis experienced financial and economic disadvantages in her relationship with Mr. Saunders, some of which were of her own making. Her standard of living was significantly reduced as a result of the relationship ending. At the time of separation, she was dependent on Mr. Saunders, and since that time she has been in obvious need. I find that Ms. Willis is entitled to spousal support on the basis of need.
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<svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1920 1408"><svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1408"><svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1920 1408"><svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1408">which is what I said, just nicer</svg></svg></svg></svg><svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1920 1408"><svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1408"><svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1920 1408"><svg class=lb-i xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="0px" width="0px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1408">





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Last edited by Janus; 10-19-2017 at 01:07 PM.
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