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Dad204 11-03-2021 02:46 PM

Question about OCL Clinician Notes
 
After OCL completed their report, I asked for complete disclosure. However, notes provided by OCL clinician are computer typed and not hand-written. Is that normal? Has anyone else received computer typed notes from OCL Clinician? I noticed that the information is not accurate in the computer typed notes.

Dad204 11-03-2021 07:54 PM

To add to my question -

OCL reported was completed almost a year ago. I requested for full disclosure from OCL, but did not receive it until a month and a half later. In the meatime, I filed a formal dispute.

OCL report is bad. There was collobaration between OCL Clinician and OP Lawyer (OP Lawyer is also OCL Lawyer Part-time). I know this because information shared with her ended up with OP lawyer before disclosure. Also, a lot of facts were twisted to favor OP. Good things said about me by children were attribute to other party. Children's statements to CAS were changed in report to favor OP and e.t.c.

I will be cross-examining OCL at trial and wanted to know if computer typed notes are common with OCL or I am the exception which can be pointed out at trial.

Stillbreathing 11-03-2021 08:26 PM

In this day and age of computer technology most health professionals notes are typewritten except for in some hospital charts, therefor it stands to reason the OCL’s notes would be typewritten as well. Rough hand written notes may be in short form and if they existed at all would likely have been thrown in the garbage when they entered the information into the computer.

If you dispute the findings in the report it’s best to cross examine the OCL at trial which it sounds like you are planning to do.

Good luck.

arbortrail22 11-04-2021 08:20 AM

Not directly related to handwritten notes, but you can search canlii for the name and see what other cases she/he has done before.

pinkHouses 11-04-2021 03:32 PM

From experience in a different legal arena:

I typed out my notes and was required to submit the journal the notes were made from.

You are correct, translation does not always reflect the notes.

Bring your own notes too.

iona6656 11-05-2021 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dad204 (Post 247970)
To add to my question -

OCL reported was completed almost a year ago. I requested for full disclosure from OCL, but did not receive it until a month and a half later. In the meatime, I filed a formal dispute.

OCL report is bad. There was collobaration between OCL Clinician and OP Lawyer (OP Lawyer is also OCL Lawyer Part-time). I know this because information shared with her ended up with OP lawyer before disclosure. Also, a lot of facts were twisted to favor OP. Good things said about me by children were attribute to other party. Children's statements to CAS were changed in report to favor OP and e.t.c.

I will be cross-examining OCL at trial and wanted to know if computer typed notes are common with OCL or I am the exception which can be pointed out at trial.

My ex disputed the findings too. The clinician's notes were attached to their response- I think- and they were typed. She had a laptop at her visits though- so I guess they were always going to be typed.

Did you SEE the clinician write notes in a notebook?

rockscan 11-05-2021 01:03 PM

I also have to say this seems fishy with the questioning the report and demanding their written notes. I highly doubt the OCL deviated so far from any written notes the way you claim. Just dispute the report. You dont need a copy of the notes. If you dont agree with the report you wont agree with the notes.

Brampton33 11-05-2021 01:18 PM

The legal and proper avenue is to dispute the report. Its in the Family Law Rules that you have 30 days to file a dispute of the findings of the report. Just note that in 99% of the times, the OCL will stick to their report. The forum to challenge the clinician is through cross examination at trial. The fact that the report does not match his/her notes is irrelevant. What counts is the Report, not the notes.

pinkHouses 11-05-2021 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brampton33 (Post 247995)
The legal and proper avenue is to dispute the report. Its in the Family Law Rules that you have 30 days to file a dispute of the findings of the report. Just note that in 99% of the times, the OCL will stick to their report. The forum to challenge the clinician is through cross examination at trial. The fact that the report does not match his/her notes is irrelevant. What counts is the Report, not the notes.

Unfortunately people lie and fabricate facts to support their desired conclusion.

Experienced it first had, people absolutely lied. Twisted words of people and changed them and fabricated circumstance to support their narrative.
I would want audio/video recordings.

Why is it irrelevant?

Dad204 11-10-2021 03:04 AM

Never heard clinician typing during our phone meetings or virtual observation visit.


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