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Superdaddy 01-20-2011 06:51 PM

Child support and S7 amount
 
I make $60K and my ex make the same amount. She has the our 4 yr old. I'm paying $925 (CS+S7 babysitting amount). Temporary consent became court order. I'm in Ontario. Is this amount fair? We are still in the middle of custody battle. Can I get this order changed as the amount is giving me financial hardship. Thanks for any inputs.

dinkyface 01-20-2011 07:28 PM

$925 breaks down into $557 table amount + $368 daycare.

Assuming you are paying 50% of daycare, so total daycare is $368 * 2 = $736/mo, which is $34/day.

Seems above-board to me...

If you are successful in obtaining 40% (or more) time with your daughter, then the $557 goes away.

Next year your daughter should be in school, so the daycare costs will be very much less.

Are you sure that she is not billing you for babysitting above and beyond what is required for her to work? (e.g. so she can have free evenings) or additional babysitter/nanny services like cooking/cleaning?

See here for Child Support guidelines - these are generally followed pretty closely. About Child Support in Canada

blinkandimgone 01-20-2011 07:42 PM

With what you're paying it amounts to $11100/year leaving you $48,900 to live on. If you can't live on that on your own, how do you expect her to do it with a child? Her expenses would be a lot more considering she has custody of the child and incurs the expenses related to maintaining a home for the child.

Perhaps instead of a reduction in child support you might review the expenses associated with your lifestyle and look for ways to cut back there, instead of on your child's.

blinkandimgone 01-20-2011 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinkyface (Post 58138)
$925 breaks down into $557 table amount + $368 daycare.

Assuming you are paying 50% of daycare, so total daycare is $368 * 2 = $736/mo, which is $34/day.

Seems above-board to me...

If you are successful in obtaining 40% (or more) time with your daughter, then the $557 goes away.

Next year your daughter should be in school, so the daycare costs will be very much less.

Are you sure that she is not billing you for babysitting above and beyond what is required for her to work? (e.g. so she can have free evenings) or additional babysitter/nanny services like cooking/cleaning?

See here for Child Support guidelines - these are generally followed pretty closely. About Child Support in Canada

$34/day is NOT excessive for full day child care.

The average cost of full time childcare in Toronto $35 - $45/day. Even the city's program is $$38.40/day or $835.20/month for a 4 year old. Be glad your kid isn't an infant, then the cheap rates start at $62/day.

logicalvelocity 01-20-2011 08:35 PM

Thanks Blink for that reality check on daycare costs. Looks like the UCCB is way off the mark.

blinkandimgone 01-20-2011 08:44 PM

You're very welcome, since the inception of the UCCB there have been a plethora of news articles criticizing it's worth.

This article is a bit older, came out in 2009 and I'm sure the costs haven't gone down any. It's a great reminder for those parents who gripe about having to share half the costs - especially when they're paying well below the typical rates for their areas:

CBC News - Canada - Childcare report: How much is daycare in Canada costing you? Summary

logicalvelocity 01-20-2011 09:39 PM

Couldn't agree more. Add cola variable into the mix, somewhat accurate. Supplementary article comments yield allegations of bias, but I think that's normal depending on ones own biased views.

dinkyface 01-20-2011 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by logicalvelocity (Post 58145)
Couldn't agree more. Add cola variable into the mix, somewhat accurate. Supplementary article comments yield allegations of bias, but I think that's normal depending on ones own biased views.

Now say that again in a YODA voice... PLEeeeeASE!

logicalvelocity 01-20-2011 10:09 PM

Yeah, Now put on a suit and you're good to go.

Superdaddy 01-20-2011 11:29 PM

She lives with her parents and her mom babysits my son. I offered her to let my mother look after my son without any charges just like the way my mother used to help out when my son was born and she was the one who used to look after him while we go to work.
In other words, it is in the best interest of the child to spend equal time but she refuses to let me see him except on tuesday and every other weekends. On what ground can I get shared custody?


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