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  • #31
    Originally posted by Brampton33 View Post
    I did survive court and quite successfully if I may mention. I saw lots of junk in my proceedings and honestly think the whole system needs reform.
    Has said about 28 people who came into this forum like a lion just like you. Stop being a social justice super hero and focus on being a parent. Come back in a year after the clear anxieties that are influencing some of your bad "advice". You are a good enough contributor but, you are over focused on edge cases that are near impossible. Its clouding your opinions and "advice"... Its showing through. This quote is an example.

    You haven't survived "successfully" in my opinion based on what you have been posting here...

    Note: Your response to this message, which I suspect will come, will be predictable to me and other experienced posters like Janus, Blinkandimgone, etc...

    Either come here for advice or come here to give it. I find the contributors that ride the fence like you are doing create nothing more than confusion.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Tayken View Post
      PinkHouses and Brampton33



      Your PSTD-like reactions from family law is showing. I encourage both of you to see out CBT. You are both over-thinking edge cases based on your current or past family law experiences I suspect.
      Janus just stated I wasn't wrong on this financial piece.
      It may have sounded edge based to you but it is a reality for me and continues.
      I would not say I have done well with the court system it has been a circus and often a farce due to a lawyer playing games with the system, judges and other lawyers. Lawyers love the income too.

      PTSD for me, yep but not as bad as it was.

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      • #33
        You can ask for any reassessments she may receive but if she lies, she will say she wasn’t reassessed.

        Do you have serious proof to back it up? Because you could ask for bank statements and credit applications too. Having proof she is working (like photos or social media posts etc) would get her to provide it without court.

        Again you have to ask if it’s enough to make it worth the fight. A few bucks is nothing in the grand scheme of things but some people say even a dollar is worth it for them.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Brampton33 View Post
          I have good reason to believe my ex has a side gig and other sources of income that are taxable/count as income. And of course to not disclose it so that my CS payments to her are not lowered. How can I bring this to light?
          What is your good reason to believe?
          With jobs that are done at home on the computer you would need an income statement or bank records showing deposits or a person to testify that they are indeed employed somewhere.

          Evidence you need to convince a judge to get the records?
          If someone is working at a physical place you can hire someone to gather that evidence; expensive unless it is just them showing up with a hidden camera and engaging with them. Then you wait for the tax return OR if your court order states that they are to inform you of employment changes.

          If you get lucky they post on social media or are listed as employed.

          Originally posted by Brampton33 View Post
          I would not be surprised if she files her tax returns with her day job only to get a tax assessment showing her day job only as Line 150 income, which she then discloses to me. Then CRA catches up and re-assesses her tacking on her other sources of taxable income and does a "re-assessment" showing her true line 150. Is this plausible? Advice welcomed.
          Originally posted by rockscan View Post
          You can ask for any reassessments she may receive but if she lies, she will say she wasn�t reassessed.
          Trust. Trust should have no place or standing when it comes to this type thing.
          The CRA Online portal shows all the reassessments done on one single page.
          The CRA can write a letter showing all the reassessments done.

          It should be a requirements for those involved to release hard copies of this. Trust has no place here.

          I don't know what the law says or what evidence is currently needed to get this disclosed.

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          • #35
            Support Payments on Moonlighting jobs?

            Well a) you would have to get the tax assessment; b) you would have to demonstrate she did it purposely. Then the repercussion is she has to pay back what was overpaid by you.

            Just because she did it with other things or before doesn’t mean she will do it again. Plus you would have to prove she is actually doing it.

            So no, there are no punishments for her especially if you can’t prove she did it.
            Last edited by rockscan; 03-15-2022, 10:25 AM.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by rockscan View Post
              So no, there are no punishments for her especially if you can�t prove she did it.
              "especially" maybe that was redundant.

              Are there interest penalties on the CS and SS?
              Maybe the ex could be subject to a financial audit at their cost. If this is a private business they are hiding then there may be more to it.

              IDK. Those with more experience know.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by pinkHouses View Post
                "especially" maybe that was redundant.

                Are there interest penalties on the CS and SS?
                Maybe the ex could be subject to a financial audit at their cost. If this is a private business they are hiding then there may be more to it.

                IDK. Those with more experience know.
                The burden of proof lays on the person making the claim. Should they wish to ask the court to order an audit, they can do so. If they pay for it, they can attempt to recoup via cost award if they are successfully able to prove hidden income if it amounts to a substantial difference in equalization or support. If not, the claimant can bear the cost of their fishing expedition.

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