Child Support and Union/Professional Dues

[Knave]

Some quick questions. I'm pretty sure I know the answers, but it is useful to double check before I give lousy advice:

1) Are union dues (and/or professional dues) subtracted from line 150 for the purposes of calculating table child support?

2) How does one provide evidence to the other party of said dues?

3) If the other party does not agree with the adjusted levels of support, what steps should be taken? (Eg: It was $100 last year, and it says $100 on the separation agreement. This year, payor says it is now $120, and recipient says it is $130.) What should payor do in this case?

4) What precise parts of the NOA need to be provided to the other party. The entire NOA, just the part that shows the NOA, or some other subset of information?

[DowntroddenDad]

Some quick questions. I'm pretty sure I know the answers, but it is useful to double check before I give lousy advice:

1) Are union dues (and/or professional dues) subtracted from line 150 for the purposes of calculating table child support?

2) How does one provide evidence to the other party of said dues?

3) If the other party does not agree with the adjusted levels of support, what steps should be taken? (Eg: It was $100 last year, and it says $100 on the separation agreement. This year, payor says it is now $120, and recipient says it is $130.) What should payor do in this case?

4) What precise parts of the NOA need to be provided to the other party. The entire NOA, just the part that shows the NOA, or some other subset of information?

Line 150 is Line 150. That is life. No deductions for lower CS.

You need to provide the entire NOA.

If you don't agree, you can try mediation, and some agreements stipulate that. Or you can go to court. If the adjusted level is the table amount, I wouldn't fight it. Even mediation can cost more than what you would gain.

[Straittohell]

I feel your pain, man. Line 150 does not care about union deductions or pension contributions. While my contributions to my pension will certainly help me 30 years from now, they certainly cut into my current net monthly income, and once child support gets thrown into the mix, it makes it harder to make ends meet in the present. It really does suck.

[HammerDad]

C/S is based of your grosse income, no deductions.

[Straittohell]

Correct, HammerDad. It just sucks when one has mandatory work deductions like pension and union dues. Understanding it doesn't necessarily make it better lol

[Knave]

Obviously pension dues are not deductible.

However, mandatory dues are to earn the income from which the support is being paid. My understanding was that they were to be deducted from the line 150. A number of lawyers have told me that it is to be deducted, others disagree. It appears that I will have to actually look into this.

Dang.

[Knave]

So, I was a bit surprised by the responses, so I did a quick canlii search

https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/do...XBwb3J0AAAAAAE

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https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/do...XBwb3J0AAAAAAE

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https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/do...XBwb3J0AAAAAAE

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https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/do...XBwb3J0AAAAAAE

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https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/do...XBwb3J0AAAAAAE

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Executive Summary: Either I am misreading the case law, and I am not a lawyer, so that is quite possible, or union dues are in fact deductible for the purposes of child support.

[Serene]

Union dues can be quit substantial depending on your employer and level. Very interesting!

[Links17]

In Quebec they are deductible (i.e: not to be considered part of your income)