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  • OrleansLawyer
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    So this means that there is nothing to negotiate?
    Call them up and talk to them. Offer them full financial disclosure of your current assets. Explain your financial situation for them and hope that they are willing to forego their claim on your assets.

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  • Beyond4D
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    Originally posted by OrleansLawyer View Post
    No.

    Please see the following:
    http://www.legalaid.on.ca/en/info/ma...tributions.pdf
    At part 4, it indicates that to obtain a waiver or compromise you should contact the client services department.
    Thank you for your reply.

    Based on what I read, it only applies to awards I would receive as part of a settlement? In my case none are expected.

    So this means that there is nothing to negotiate?

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  • Beyond4D
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    Originally posted by OrleansLawyer View Post
    No.

    You may negotiate on this debt, most likely with a plea on grounds of compassion. However, throwing legal terms in the hope the uninitiated will bob their heads and agree is the fief of sophists and charlatans.
    Thank you for your response.

    I guess we agree "Spophists and charlatans" exists. The only question in my mind remains who are they? I leave it alone.

    Thank you for the forum. It's helpful.

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  • SadAndTired
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    Originally posted by OrleansLawyer View Post
    However, throwing legal terms in the hope the uninitiated will bob their heads and agree is the fief of sophists and charlatans.
    Made me chuckle. Quite possibly the best sentence ever on this site.

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  • OrleansLawyer
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    Am I not dealing with a trust (LAO)?
    No.

    Trust - "The right, enforceable solely in equity, to the beneficial enjoyment of property to which another person holds the legal title; a property interest held by one person (the trustee) at the request of another (the settlor) for the benefit of a third party (the beneficiary)."
    Source - Black's Law Dictionary

    Trust - "a trust is a relationship whereby property (real or personal, tangible or intangible) is held by one party for the benefit of another."
    Source - Trust law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    What you have is a debt. You signed a contract which permitted services to be provided for you, for which you would pay a portion of the costs thereof.

    The services are the time and expertise of a legal professional, with no guarantees of success or progress.

    You received this service. Consequently, you have a debt, as per your contract.

    You may negotiate on this debt, most likely with a plea on grounds of compassion. However, throwing legal terms in the hope the uninitiated will bob their heads and agree is the fief of sophists and charlatans.

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  • Beyond4D
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    Originally posted by OrleansLawyer View Post
    Or, since there is apparently an overabundance of time, the following case law should prove instructive:
    CanLII - 2012 ABQB 571 (CanLII)

    I can advise that it has been cited with approval in Ontario.
    Thank you for the link. Interesting read.

    Is it not true that there must be a remedy?

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  • Beyond4D
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    Originally posted by Tayken View Post
    Ok, I know, totally inappropriate but, you did mention "freeman" and I have been waiting for an opportunity to post this case law...

    ‘MAITREYA’ ISIS MARYJANE BLACKSHEAR,
    THE DIVINE HOLY MOTHER OF ALL IN/OF CREATION’
    AND ALL ISIS NATION ESTATES

    v.

    HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN, ET AL
    CANADA MINISTER OF JUSTICE
    AND ATTORNEY GENERAL
    ROBERT DOUGLAS NICHOLSON
    CANADA DEPUTY MINISTER OF JUSTICE
    AND ATTORNEY GENERAL
    WILLIAM F. PENTNEY
    ALBERTA MINISTER OF JUSTICE AND SOLICITOR GENERAL JONATHAN DENIS ALBERTA DEPUTY MINISTER OF JUSTICE RAY BODNAREK

    Blackshear v. Canada, 2013 FC 590 (CanLII)
    Date: 2013-05-31
    Docket: T-533-13
    URL: CanLII - 2013 FC 590 (CanLII)
    Citation: Blackshear v. Canada, 2013 FC 590 (CanLII)



    It is not often that you see a reference to Tiamat in case law! I don't think the litigant in this matter was referring to the other Tiamat I was hoping for...

    Good Luck!
    Tayken
    Thanks for your reply. I did not say anything about "freeman".

    How is this Blackshear v. Canada relevant?

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  • Beyond4D
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    Originally posted by Learner View Post
    You should lay off the "Freeman" videos on You-Tube and discuss your situation with LOA as per the advice of the previous posters.
    Thanks for your advice.

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  • Beyond4D
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    Originally posted by OrleansLawyer View Post
    With respect, you do not understand correctly.
    Am I not dealing with a trust (LAO)?

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  • Beyond4D
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    [QUOTE=OrleansLawyer;139501]With respect, you do not understand correctly.


    I imagine they ask you, quite reasonably, why you should not live up to your contractual obligations.

    Originally posted by OrleansLawyer View Post
    Please see the following:
    http://www.legalaid.on.ca/en/info/ma...tributions.pdf
    At part 4, it indicates that to obtain a waiver or compromise you should contact the client services department.
    Thank you.

    In the introduction of said document:
    Failure to exercise the discretion would cause the applicant or person responsible hardship;



    Considering I'm now permanently disabled and having to rely on "the system", even $50 month will take 40 years to pay off. In the mean time, there is not enough to cover existing living expenses. Like I stated early...debt slave.

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  • Tayken
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    Originally posted by OrleansLawyer View Post
    Or, since there is apparently an overabundance of time, the following case law should prove instructive:
    CanLII - 2012 ABQB 571 (CanLII)

    I can advise that it has been cited with approval in Ontario.
    Lol! Great minds think alike? This OrleansLawyer is why anyone from the Ottawa area asks me about representation I point them in the right direction.

    Good Luck!
    Tayken

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  • OrleansLawyer
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    You should lay off the "Freeman" videos on You-Tube and discuss your situation with LOA as per the advice of the previous posters.
    Or, since there is apparently an overabundance of time, the following case law should prove instructive:
    CanLII - 2012 ABQB 571 (CanLII)

    I can advise that it has been cited with approval in Ontario.

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  • Tayken
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    Originally posted by Learner View Post
    You should lay off the "Freeman" videos on You-Tube and discuss your situation with LOA as per the advice of the previous posters.
    Ok, I know, totally inappropriate but, you did mention "freeman" and I have been waiting for an opportunity to post this case law...

    ‘MAITREYA’ ISIS MARYJANE BLACKSHEAR,
    THE DIVINE HOLY MOTHER OF ALL IN/OF CREATION’
    AND ALL ISIS NATION ESTATES

    v.

    HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN, ET AL
    CANADA MINISTER OF JUSTICE
    AND ATTORNEY GENERAL
    ROBERT DOUGLAS NICHOLSON
    CANADA DEPUTY MINISTER OF JUSTICE
    AND ATTORNEY GENERAL
    WILLIAM F. PENTNEY
    ALBERTA MINISTER OF JUSTICE AND SOLICITOR GENERAL JONATHAN DENIS ALBERTA DEPUTY MINISTER OF JUSTICE RAY BODNAREK

    Blackshear v. Canada, 2013 FC 590 (CanLII)
    Date: 2013-05-31
    Docket: T-533-13
    URL: CanLII - 2013 FC 590 (CanLII)
    Citation: Blackshear v. Canada, 2013 FC 590 (CanLII)

    [4] The allegations set out in the 84 page pleading are for the most part unintelligible and consequently difficult to summarize. The Plaintiff states that she is the “Divine Mother of All in/of Creation. She also claims to be the only one authorized and qualified to fill the See of Rome. The Plaintiff is seeking damages against the Alberta Crown and the Federal Crown on behalf of “Tiamat Ki-Earths Kaneh Bosm Signatory Tribal Nations’ and “Independent Spiritual International Signatory (ISIS) Nation Estates” in an astronomical amount of over one hundred and eight quadrillion dollars. The Plaintiff claims damages based on breach of covenant, breach of trust, fiduciary duty and obligations, false imprisonment, and other injustices.
    It is not often that you see a reference to Tiamat in case law! I don't think the litigant in this matter was referring to the other Tiamat I was hoping for...

    Good Luck!
    Tayken
    Last edited by Tayken; 06-12-2013, 04:30 PM.

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  • Learner
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    You should lay off the "Freeman" videos on You-Tube and discuss your situation with LOA as per the advice of the previous posters.

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  • OrleansLawyer
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    1) If I understand correctly, LAO is the trustee. Am I not the beneficiary and the director of my own trust?
    With respect, you do not understand correctly.

    2) What happens if I offer them $1 to settle this matter?
    I imagine they ask you, quite reasonably, why you should not live up to your contractual obligations.

    Please see the following:
    http://www.legalaid.on.ca/en/info/ma...tributions.pdf
    At part 4, it indicates that to obtain a waiver or compromise you should contact the client services department.

    Leave a comment:

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