14C confirmation

[blinkandimgone]

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Podric, Rockscan said the same that SP and I both said.

You don't get to PM people for the sole purpose of harassing them. This stops now.

[podric]

Sent a private message to Rockscan telling them to Stay in their lane and returned their insult on intelligence......they reported me for harassment!!!

Originally Posted by podric
Keep your toxic responses and responses devoid of intelligence on the Family Law system away from me.
You want to post fine, back your shit with web references but you can't.


I used to be in a relationship with someone a lot like you. They made it hell for people around them but their personality or intelligence wouldn't allow them to see or accept that.

Stay in your lane and keep that tongue in your mouth.
I seriously doubt this is clear enough for you but will ask. Clear?

Rockscan reply

And now Ive reported you for harassment. Good luck in your case!!

What type of person keeps pushing and delivering insults until they are told to get lost and get insulted just so they can file a complaint?



I am keeping this thread on my HD with all those rockscan insults and confusion for future reference because last time they were deleted, as they should. Classic.

[podric]

Considering you can�t figure out the clearest of things on a good day, this isn�t an insult. You just didn�t like what I had to say.

That is the only extra bit from you I needed to read.


Shutup Rockscan, stay in your lane. In real life I wouldn't tolerate your Karen crap and blast you. Go out and get some air you keyboard warrior.

[rockscan]

It is very clear to me that Blinkandimgone and Stillpaying said something much different than Rockscan did and did so with grace.

Considering you can’t figure out the clearest of things on a good day, this isn’t an insult. You just didn’t like what I had to say.

What I did was notify the other lawyer and trial co-coordinator office to give them a heads up and to show that I was unavailable before a date was set. Now I wait and see if it becomes a problem. I won't be prepared if it does.

Not sure why you didn’t lead with this in your question. Why was it so difficult to simply say you advised the other parties and trial co-ordinator? Why do you have such an issue with giving the full picture? (Those are rhetorical, I know the answer.)

It would seem perverse that people can file late, lie and not disclose even if they are far out of the timelines and do so without penalty but I can't change a DRO CC date so I can get a medical procedure done this year when next year is risking being too late courts could wait but God can't/won't. Those dates are plentiful.

No one said you couldn’t change it and if it came to be that the matter was scheduled for that time and you couldn’t get the other party to agree, you could have had a lawyer go, tell the judge your child was in surgery and let the judge blast the other parent for being callous.

Like I (and Stillpaying) said, you are overthinking things and worrying about what may or may not happen.

[podric]

It is very clear to me that Blinkandimgone and Stillpaying said something much different than Rockscan did and did so with grace.


What I did was notify the other lawyer and trial co-coordinator office to give them a heads up and to show that I was unavailable before a date was set. Now I wait and see if it becomes a problem. I won't be prepared if it does.



It would seem perverse that people can file late, lie and not disclose even if they are far out of the timelines and do so without penalty but I can't change a DRO CC date so I can get a medical procedure done this year when next year is risking being too late courts could wait but God can't/won't. Those dates are plentiful.

[rockscan]

14C confirmation

Thank you. I will add clarity.


I haven't seen a judge but a judge was asked to set the same single date by other party via procedural motion.

SP and blink said pretty much what I was saying that the clerk sets the time.

Your clarity item also points out that you need to stop stressing about what the other side might do. The beauty of Canadian courts is that you get a say too so just because the other side files a request to have something on a set date, you have the opportunity to argue why that date won’t work.

Not to mention the judge may not be available on the date they want.

Just because the other side wants something doesn’t mean they automatically get it. And I’m not attacking you. Any court is difficult whether it is family or otherwise. It is easy to get panicked and worried about what ifs. What you need to remember is the ex and her lawyer do not control the court. They won’t get what they want just because they want it. You will have an opportunity to argue against it.

[podric]

Thank you all.


A date is not set but one can come down from up high any day due to a procedural motion.



There is a 14B motion to waive Rule 39 and set a specific date for DRO CC that may get sunk because the lawyer didn't serve me before filing after they failed to file correctly the first time. I did file a late response and asked for a different date. That is in another thread.
I am not prepared because this month I have too much going on with end of year audit and an unexpected residential location item. They OC knew this and is trying to set a date they know I am less likely to be prepared for.

Before this they delayed for months, now they are in a hurry....riiiight.



In between my filing a response the medical appointment was setup.


I did call the trial co-coordinator and informed them that I am unavailable but did not leave specific instructions.


If none of this sounds normal, welcome to the party.

[blinkandimgone]

What are the rules around a 14C confirmation:


A DRO CC date may be set by judge and may be in conflict with a medical appointment for child just made that I can't change without it bringing up a lengthy delay that reduces the effectiveness of treatment.
I am told I cannot contact the judge.
I go to all the medial appointments, especially these that are important.



If the judge gives a date that conflicts with the medical appointment.
The ex agreed to change the date; her lawyer will not respond and when they do they will decline or wait until the last days. If I file my materials on time they will be of poor quality.

Do I file a 14C right away or a motion?

If you have a date scheduled and you absolutely cannot make it, you would contact the coordinator and request a change.

If you don't have a date scheduled, you can contact them and let them know that you are not available that day - presumably the other parent would not be available either if the child has an appointment that you would both be at.

If your ex has agreed and her lawyer is not responding, it's likely because she gave a different response to her lawyer or has not given her lawyer direction.

Why would your documents be of poor quality? You should be prepared to attend on your original date, it has nothing to do with the medical appointment. It doesn't sound like you even have a date set yet, so you've got lots of time to get your documents prepared whether you end up with a change of dates or not.

You wouldn't file a 14C confirming if you don't have a date yet, or if you cannot attend on the set date if there is one.

It's very difficult to answer your questions when something may or may not be set, may or may not be happening and may or may not have happened yet. That's a lot of hypothetical stuff. Either your date is set or it isn't. If it isn't, then if you really wanted to, you could contact them ahead of time about your availability, or just wait until the date is set you'd even know if you have to change anything.

Getting wrapped up about minor issues that may or may not happen doesn't help you, especially at this early stage. If you get this wrapped up now, you might consider getting a lawyer to help you for when things are substantially more complicated later.

[podric]

Thank you. I will add clarity.


I haven't seen a judge but a judge was asked to set the same single date by other party via procedural motion.

[StillPaying]

The first time you'll see a judge is after your cc so it's not a judge booking it, it's the clerk. Speak to the clerk then the other lawyer. Reschedule.

[podric]

At this point I don't trust Rockscan to be correct as they messed up on my other simple process question and accosted the person that showed them wrong and are behaving the same way here by going on tangents and making up scenarios which they use as a platform to attack.
Besides it sounds like a rant not an answer.



If anyone else can handle my question without getting all confused, snide and blaming me for it I would like to hear from you. Oh, and attacking me. Yeah, that isn't helpful. Thank you!

[rockscan]

Probably because you don’t understand the process and rather than actually thinking through it, you are the one getting snide.

If you are filing a 14C you are confirming you will be attending a motion on a specific date. Item 3 on the form specifically has the DATE OF THE HEARING. If you don’t have a date you don’t file the 14c. The point of the form is to figure out what the issues are and how much time it will take so the judge can call up the cases.

Has the court given you a date? If they haven’t given you a date you don’t file the 14C.

Judges don’t sit in chambers filling out dates haphazardly. Not to mention many courts have set days for certain procedures like a conference. You aren’t going to get a notification with a date set out that you can’t change.

No one else has answered because they a) can’t understand you or b) don’t have an answer because you don’t have a date.

If you are so worried about this, go to the clerks desk and ask them your question which they would be able to answer because they have the calendar.

And if you think this is snide, good luck with a judge who won’t hesitate to point out issues.

[podric]

This might help: https://www.ontario.ca/document/guid...ourt#section-2

not in helpful even in the least.

[podric]

If anyone else can handle my question without getting all confused, snide and blaming me for it I would like to hear from you.
I could file a motion
,I could put in a 14C (when might I hear back from that?)
,I could ask the other lawyer but they are "difficult"



thank you.


Mini-rant:
I don't want to find out I have to cancel only to find out the next appointment after that is now 6 months later instead of 4 and then have that date cancelled again because of COVID concerns. May as well cancel surgery too bad kid I had to go to court for some bullshit case conference.
What pisses me off is people say it hasn't happened yet but when it does they say "that is unfortunate"...total assholes.

[rockscan]

This might help: https://www.ontario.ca/document/guid...ourt#section-2