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    Help. I feel I am walking a fine line, but I want to get court and police records on my Ex's new live in boyfriend. Apparently he is abusive and has an extensive documented court record of spousal abuse. I went through the usual docket and google searches and found nothing. How do I subeona court and social services records? Any help is appreciated. Two of his Ex wives have protection orders against him. I am concerned, but am I wrong to go and make phone calls to police services and child protection services asking questions. Is this harassment? We have shared custody, but in light of info I am hearing perhaps I should consider taking action.

  • #2
    who is giving you the information on the new bf?

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    • #3
      From my sister. Her source is actually afraid for her personal safety so she won't say who. I need to get my own sources so to speak from the horses mouth via police and other records. I know where to go and have been pointed in the right direction, but if I start making cold calls I have a feeling I am not going to get anywhere due to privacy rules.

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      • #4
        I think you are barking up the wrong tree. Your information is just hearsay. As far as you know your sisters friend may have a vendetta against the man for some reason, scorned ex gf or friend of his ex wife.

        I think that due to the privacy laws you will not get anywhere. Just keep an eye on the situation.

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        • #5
          I think you are barking up the wrong tree. Your information is just hearsay. As far as you know your sisters friend may have a vendetta against the man for some reason, scorned ex gf or friend of his ex wife.

          I think that due to the privacy laws you will not get anywhere. Just keep an eye on the situation.
          This is ridiculous. The guy has some information (which MAY be heresay) and you are telling him to do nothing?

          Why don't you just contact one of the ex-wives for starters?

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          • #6
            I absolutely agree with you. It is hearsay. Perhaps an Ex has a vendetta. I do know his Exs are actually afraid of speaking out and at least on one occasion was bullied into not testifying against him, but the crown charged him anyways in another province a year ago. I believe he has conviction. They are afraid. There is also apparently a history of child abuse in terms of the spousal abuse they witnessed. My children are presently in his and my Exs care!

            Perhaps I am barking up the wrong tree, but I would be neglectful for not looking into it right? I can't do nothing. How do I get a police check done? How do I get information? I was told I should call children services on this guy. The story is he was ordered away from his last girlfriend about an hour from here and her children. They told her if he comes around they would remove the children, so it is serious! He has shacked up with my Ex and my children and she only knew him a month.

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            • #7
              Why don't you call child services and ask what you should do - they are their to protect children (saying it with a straight face)....

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Links17 View Post
                This is ridiculous. The guy has some information (which MAY be heresay) and you are telling him to do nothing?

                Why don't you just contact one of the ex-wives for starters?
                re-read my post. I never said to do nothing, I told him to keep an eye on the situation.

                I wouldn't trust any information from someone who wont identify themselves.

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                • #9
                  It is very difficult - almost impossible - to get information on whether someone else has a criminal record. (If you know the exact offence that they were convicted of, the exact date of the conviction, and the jurisdiction in which it happened, you can go to the relevant courthouse and look through the records for that date, but there is no searchable database if all you've got is a name). This article explains a bit more:

                  Hard to check criminal records of others - Canada - CBC News

                  I empathize with you in your position but I think the best you can do is to contact children's aid, if you have concerns that the bf is behaving violently now. It is also possible that although he has been violent in the past, he's not doing so right now, so there's nothing that can be done if your ex chooses to shack up with him. How old are the kids, and do they have open communications with you?

                  If you live in a small community (small town, rural) you may also be able to have an informal chat with the local RCMP about your concerns about the boyfriend. You don't have to accuse him of anything, just get him on their radar. This is what my bf did in a similar situation (his ex moved in with a man with a record of domestic violence), and the RCMP did indeed keep an eye on that household.

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                  • #10
                    I take it I can't walk into a courthouse and say show me everything you got on so and so?


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                    • #11
                      No, I don't think you can, any more than you can walk into a doctor's office and ask for someone else's medical file or into a university and ask for someone else's academic transcript. For good or for bad, personal information is strongly protected in Canada, unless there's a demonstrated need to know, and having heard a secondhand rumor about someone doesn't qualify as "need to know".

                      I sympathize with you, but I don't think the Canadian legal system is going to help you out here. Best to just monitor the situation as closely as you can. If the source of the information can't or won't be identified, there's a pretty good chance the information is inaccurate.

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                      • #12
                        I agree with Stripes


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                        • #13
                          be vigilant but don't be naive

                          Lots of women charge their partners with alleged 'abuse' just to get even or to advance child custody it seems these days. The poor bugger might simply be the target of two very upset ex-wives. He may not pay child support but that doesn't make him a perv. Always get FACTS first and don't act on rumours.

                          Goes without saying that you should keep an eye on things.
                          Last edited by arabian; 07-20-2014, 11:51 PM. Reason: I said that poorly

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                          • #14
                            Hire an investigator. A criminal record check is usually not too expensive.

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                            • #15
                              Sounds like BS. If he is violent, your own ex or child would complain.
                              If the court would do anything based on exes stories, many of us would be on the execution row.

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