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Try to guilt children into a decision? I could list a HUGE list of examples of what happened, but I will just start with one. Specifically, the CI said "...doesn't it make you feel bad that the OP sat in my office and sobbed like a baby? The OP is also spending a lot of money to be able to see you?"
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even if they said or didnt, what matters more is if the child has the legal ability to weigh in the decision or not. i.e. the childs age, if the CI said that to a 6 year old kid they may be just trying to see if the child has any affiliation with the OP. -
They are young teens in age if that helps any
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in that case i wouldnt try to fight all this as it will matter less what the clinician suggests and more what the child wants, therefore i would immediately try to go for 50/50 joint & shared custody.Comment
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It's not a custody issue. I've had full from the beginning years ago.Comment
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Is it an issue over visitation?Are you withholding access and coming here to find more ways of preventing a dad from seeing kids?Fill in the blanksComment
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Ummm... no. The op WALKED away from them years ago. The other parent is not a good person at all. The OP right now (and this goes to show you how mean this person is to my kids) was court ordered when this all started again to stay away from me and the kids. No access, no contact. Very few people are ever told this in court- shows the severity of the situation I would say, so please do NOT accuse me of parental alienation!
MY QUESTION WAS THIS:
Can a clinical investigator try to guilt chi9ldren into a decision?
I would like if anyone can help me with this please......Comment
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Who employs the "clinical investigator?" What is their actual profession (social worker? psychologist?) What College or professional organisation governs their profession? What legislation controls certification?
If you feel they are behaving unethically then that is the course of complaints you follow.
Are you present during these investigations, did you hear these things yourself, or was it heresay?
Is the investigation court ordered due to action taken recently by the other parent? If so it would seem that the old order forbidding contact is now in dispute, or otherwise not considered relevant.Comment
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The investigator was brought in by the OCL. It is what my ver distraught-after-the-meeting children told me happened. They said (and rightfully so) they believed the meeting (they have met ocl twice before, first time with ci) was to confirm their wishes and that these people were supposed to help be their voice. They said they felt bullied, like they were defending the actions of the op, and they tried to heavily lay on the guilt.Comment
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I think Murphyslaw was just making the point that your question is missing a lot of details that would be necessary for you to mention, if anyone here is to properly respond.Comment
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Could have been. That's the terrible aspect of forums- tone of voice is missing so interpretation is not always accurateOriginally posted by hadenough View Post
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Hadenough is correct about my comment.What has changed?Why is OCL involved ?What is the father asking for?Was their a history of abuse to you?Was their a history of abuse to the kids?
Most of all what has changed since that first order ,that now has the father wanting access?Comment
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All you have is hearsay to take into the courtroom, this will be disregarded. You may attempt to submit affidavits from the children. These can sometimes be effective, other times disregarded. It depends on the circumstance, the judge, etc.
You are free to file a complaint against the particular College (ie the College of Social Workers.) You are also free to file a complaint with the OCL. I am not claiming that you will get much satisfaction, but that is the path to take.Comment
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The clinical investigator in my case has a very impressive resume. She stated clearly to me at ou very brief meeting that she has dealt with many child protection cases. That initially made me feel better until she tried guilting my kids into seeing a dangerous person. Until she made them feel bullied etc. My children said they stuck to their guns, but still, can she DO that to them? She literally said, (according to my kids) "You need to stop and listen to me, the op is a good person deep down inside, the op would do anything for you, and the op sat here in my office and cried and cried and cried to see you...."Originally posted by Mess View Post
The op has almost killed us all in the past- but she minimized this to my kids and just kept saying he has such good in him- she can see it. She can read people well she said
Personally, I think the ci was terribly and ethically in the wrong. Or was she in her legal rights to conduct herself this way even if it is wrong?Comment
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Sorry for misunderstanding, and thanks for the clarification.Originally posted by murphyslaw View Post
There was a LONG history to the children and I yes.
This all came about because my children need dental work. Legally (my work does not provide benefits) the op was to keep the children on benefits. I went to get their orthodontics done and benefits denied. Just had my old lawyer send a letter asking if benefits had changed to please advise. The op said nope- they have not changed but won't allow them use of benefits. Next thing you know I am being served with papers for liberal unsupervised access. That is the very condensed version, so I hope it makes as much sense as possible.Comment
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