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  • #16
    Originally posted by WorkingDAD View Post
    It seems to me that you are starting realize that what you done is not a joke anymore. What I can't get that why you want to settle anything in first place and reason, why I cant get it is that, person , who truly "fears" abduction, will never settle to anything. That person SHOULD ANd WOULD go to COURT and SECURE child!!!
    When did the person in question acquire the ability to "mind read"? Breaking apart the above quote from the person in question one would question how they have come to the conclusion "you are starting to realize" anything? That is a wide sweeping assumption to be making about anyone.

    Secondly, rational people want to settle things. Highly conflicted people don't. They want to fight it out in court and would never make (or consider) an offer to settle.

    Actually, someone who is concerned about abduction would seek remedies to prevent the action from happening through the court, and seek settlement in the matter. Any well rounded person would seek settlement even in a complex matter such as this.

    Originally posted by WorkingDAD View Post
    But we all know that, you never feared any abduction and there is plenty of prove to that.
    Collectively who is "we" in this statement made by the person in question? Seriously question who the "we" are in this. Is this you and the other parent? You the other parent and the court system? You the other parent and society?

    Who is the other party the person in question is including in the statement of "we"?

    Originally posted by WorkingDAD View Post
    You did all this circus to take child from me , to make child and me suffer, and not to pay money for child.
    One only has to read the already posted case law in the matter to realize the reality of the situation at hand. The person in question is stating explicitly that you are (a) doing this for vengeance and (b) it is all your fault and (c) that you are trying to abuse (make one suffer) for something.

    Originally posted by WorkingDAD View Post
    As CS was first thing on your mind to ask. In any case. You made very serious accusation/allegations and you should pay for it.
    This statement is all about seeking vengeance against you and contains a threat: "you should pay for it".

    Originally posted by WorkingDAD View Post
    Your poor judgment is not in child best interest and that is why custody should transfer to me.
    This contains a personal insult to your "judgement" and what vengeance the court should inflict on you on behalf of the person in question.

    Originally posted by WorkingDAD View Post
    If you want to settle without court, give me my time back, my health, child health.... can you do that?
    Note the use of "my" in the statement. It is very clear and explicitly stated as:

    "my time back" - Access time is the child's right and not that of the access parent.
    "my health" - How does one even give back health? One's health and well being is in their own personal domain and control. If the person in question wants better health there is a whole health care system out there waiting to help with any issues regarding their health care.

    Originally posted by WorkingDAD View Post
    Of coarse you cant. Can you compensate all what *Son* and I lost due to your insanity? Of coarse not. So what can you "offer" to "settle". Let hear you out.
    Emotionally abusive statement if there ever was one. You were just called "insane" which is emotionally abusive. Calling anyone "insane" in such a manner is psychological abuse and I truly hope you recognize this. Furthermore, what ever got settled and resolved by calling the other person "insane"?

    Originally posted by WorkingDAD View Post
    I will not leave this as is. Or you think I will? Even ,if you give me at least my lost time ( which will reduce your time to EOW and wens-days) min 2 year(I did math) and full custody of *Son*, as that would be in his best interest.
    Again, read the statement in full:

    "my lost time" - nothing about the child's time. One would question if the person in question sees the child as a unique and individual or an object to be fought over and won in court like property. The possessive nature of "my" statements shouldn't be overlooked.

    Originally posted by WorkingDAD View Post
    Even this will not stop me to go to trial ( to both trials). I will never leave this, as is.
    This may constitute "all or nothing thinking" otherwise known as "splitting":

    Cognitive distortion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splitting_(psychology)

    "Give me everything I ask for or give me nothing."

    Also known as "going for broke". What people don't realize is when you "go for broke" you either get what you want or you go broke. It in itself is the root of all "splitting" (black and white) thinking.

    By making an offer to settle WD, you are demonstrating that you are not a black and white thinker. I hope you truly understand this.

    Originally posted by WorkingDAD View Post
    You should take ALL responsibilities for what you did.
    This kind of thinking is the main theme of William Eddy's book is all about this and is titled "It's All Your Fault". Not the caps on the word "ALL" in that statement. You are responsible for everything that this person in question is feeling. They are not responsible for anything it appears. You are the root of all that is bad in their life. You are possible their "target of blame" for their projections.

    HCI High Conflict Speakers, Books, Consultations

    They pick a Target of Blame and assault that person verbally, physically, financially, etc. They promote high conflict divorces, lawsuits, complaints against co-workers, neighbors, friends and family. They sue professionals, gather negative advocates, cost employers lots of time and money. They convince everyone that it's all your fault! If you're dealing with a situation like this then you've come to the right place to get information, resources and tools to help you.
    That quote is right off the main page of Mr. Eddy's site. How is this email to you not exactly what is described on the front page of the website?

    Originally posted by WorkingDAD View Post
    So, you can go to his Honor and talk. He likes you and will give you perfect advice. I am not required and his honor will dismiss you ( as he clearly said, I may not attend if I wish , he will understand me). There is NOTHING you CAN offer me.
    I would bring this correspondence into "his Honor" and request the necessary technical orders that can be made for disclosure and get some sage advice from "his Honor". In fact, my recommendation would be to talk to Stephen Watkins directly, get his feedback from his research and bring that information with you and discuss the matter if possible and what resolutions can be put forward in an offer to settle.

    Good Luck!
    Tayken

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    • #17
      the screwed up thing WD is that no matter what you would have sent her, she would have sent the opposite reply.

      You want to settle she says you are making things up and never really feared for the child being taken. If you would have said lets go to court, she would have said that you are the one who is keeping the legal stuff going and she just wants to settle it.

      You just cant deal with crazy

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      • #18
        Originally posted by standing on the sidelines View Post
        the screwed up thing WD is that no matter what you would have sent her, she would have sent the opposite reply.

        You want to settle she says you are making things up and never really feared for the child being taken. If you would have said lets go to court, she would have said that you are the one who is keeping the legal stuff going and she just wants to settle it.

        You just cant deal with crazy
        "...And just when you think you've reached the bottom of her craziness, there's a crazy underground garage."

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        • #19
          Originally posted by WorkingDAD View Post
          Hello All

          As many of you know I have second trial scheduled for Jan 2013.
          WD

          How did you do at the trial?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Marcos View Post
            "...And just when you think you've reached the bottom of her craziness, there's a crazy underground garage."



            Love this!

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            • #21
              What happened at the January 2013 trial? In reading this thread I thought child abduction was an issue. What happened?

              yes I liked the 'underground garage' remark as well

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              • #22
                Originally posted by arabian View Post
                What happened at the January 2013 trial? In reading this thread I thought child abduction was an issue. What happened?

                yes I liked the 'underground garage' remark as well
                Trial adjourned to Sep 2013.

                Mom decided to ignore order to sign consent to release CAS file so motion were brought and as result mom signed consent in court trial adjourned and mom ordered to pay $250 for motion.

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