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  • #31
    Indeed, pity flavoured broth - sad with a bitter aftertaste.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Mess View Post
      If no one ever stirs the pot, all you get for supper is a ladle full of thin broth with burnt crap.
      To further this comment... Looking at the matter being presented before the court from all angles is helpful if you look at it. It can help refine the "soup" that you are stirring and help make sure you don't serve a "ladle full of thin broth with burnt crap".

      To further the analogy is this... You may have all the ingredients for the "perfect soup"; the best carrots, stock, onions, etc... But, if you cook it wrong, over cook it or worse burn it... The ingredients will demonstrate nothing to the people eating the soup other than you can't cook.

      What the more senior posters present, although many people don't like it... Is often a perspective of how you are "cooking soup" and how you plan to possibly use the ingredients.

      How you present your evidence is just as important as the evidence you have in family court.

      Try to make "stone soup" with your argument and not what Mess describes above which sounds like, just as described, crap:

      Stone soup - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Stone Soup is an old folk story in which hungry strangers persuade local people of a town to give them food. It is usually told as a lesson in cooperation, especially amid scarcity. In varying traditions, the stone has been replaced with other common inedible objects, and therefore the fable is also known as button soup, wood soup, nail soup, and axe soup. In the Aarne-Thompson folktale classification system it is type 1548.[1]
      Good Luck!
      Tayken

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      • #33
        Now I'm hungry.

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        • #34
          Tayken is indeed insightful.

          I often use this story teaching both my children and staff.

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          • #35
            The Teachings of Burnt Crap by Dr. Blink? Tee Hee

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            • #36
              It sounds like you are trying to bring a 14B forward requesting summary judgement based on the written evidence without consent on the issues being presented. Is this a correct assumption?
              Yes, this is correct. Thank you. I have filled out the correct forms then

              I have replied to exactly two of your posts. I notice that you took the time to point me out for disagreeing with you, but left out the others who disagreed with you on those posts, or agreed with me on those posts - including Tayken, whose posts you 'always find most helpful'.
              I pointed you out because of the amount of futile posts I see coming from you. It does seem that you can offer critical yet helpful advice a lot of the time but a portion of it just seems mean spirited. Eitherway Blink, you seem to be the type that likes to get the last word in and fight to the death so I will read your reply and gracefully not respond as I don't have time for this.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by court View Post
                Eitherway Blink, you seem to be the type that likes to get the last word in and fight to the death so I will read your reply and gracefully not respond as I don't have time for this.
                Court, did you just get the 'last word in'? ))

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by court View Post
                  Yes, this is correct. Thank you. I have filled out the correct forms then
                  Summary judgements in family law are quite complex to pull off:

                  Summary Judgment in Family Law | PSW Law

                  In bringing a summary judgment motion in family law in Ontario, the party making the motion must set out specific facts of the case showing that there is no genuine issue requiring a trial.
                  ... continued ...

                  In determining whether there is a genuine issue for trial, the question becomes whether the evidence presented is sufficient to require a trial. For example, a genuine issue for trial may refer to whether there is an issue of credibility or whether the material facts are in dispute.

                  Although the onus is on the moving party to persuade the court that there is no genuine issue for trial, the responding party must “lead trump or risk losing.”*

                  As to what constitutes “no genuine issue for trial,” the Ontario Court of Appeal has equated that phrase with “no chance of success,” making it “plain and obvious that the action cannot succeed.”

                  Once the moving party has established prima facie evidence that there is no genuine issue for trial, the moving party is entitled to summary judgment as a matter of law.
                  You may "feel" or "believe" that there is enough prima facie evidence in your favour and no genuine issue to bring to trial. But, the court is the determiner of that and not you as a filing party. Always remember that.

                  Good Luck!
                  Tayken

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by court View Post
                    I pointed you out because of the amount of futile posts I see coming from you. It does seem that you can offer critical yet helpful advice a lot of the time but a portion of it just seems mean spirited. Eitherway Blink, you seem to be the type that likes to get the last word in and fight to the death so I will read your reply and gracefully not respond as I don't have time for this.
                    My observations of Blink:

                    High ability to "think critically" often miss interpreted by people as "being critical". Writing style may not demonstrate tonality of intent and is often "interpreted" by readers responding to Blink's messages. Mess is probably the best example of an incredibly well styled "critical thinker". Blink is more tenacious as a poster at times which again, is interpreted often as "being critical". Again, this is my opinion based on reading thousands of samples posted to this site by a variety of contributors (i.e. PH, Blink, Mess, BillM, NBDad, Hadenough, et all...).

                    Blink, although often uses a more tenacious tone I have done this myself and even Mess at times. No one is perfect. Although, Mess sets the standard for critical thinking on this site in my opinion.

                    Posters may not like the tone taken by Blink but does raise vital questions and problems and puts them together clearly and precisely.

                    Blink attempts to gathers and assess relevant information, using abstract ideas to interpret it effectively even when details which should be provided are lacking. Blink often comes to well-reasoned recommendations, testing them against relevant known issues that face families in transition.

                    Blink, although some would disagree thinks open-mindedly, maybe too much for some of the posters who are in emotional states and not prepared to receive Blink's frank feedback, within structured systems of thought based on evidence (well, that which the poster chooses to disclose) and case law (also known as good parenting), often addresses the complexities of posters assumptions (even though not stated), implications those assumptions could have, and practical consequences to harbouring those "assumptions".

                    So, in my view, although like all responses on a public forum like this, all feedback and insights given should be taken with a grain of salt. Blink, more than other posters and with good judgement in my opinion, uses more salt than some.

                    Hope this provides some insight into what I see from my side of the screen when reading Blink's messages.

                    Good Luck!
                    Tayken
                    Last edited by Tayken; 09-24-2012, 02:56 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Well, I feel dirty now.

                      Thanks Tayken!

                      I'm not here to be liked or hold peoples' hands. I really don't care if strangers on the intertube like me or not, lol. "I yam what I yam!"

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by FaithandMorals View Post
                        The Teachings of Burnt Crap by Dr. Blink? Tee Hee
                        Ha! I missed this earlier!!

                        Apparently my soup is rather salty!

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                        • #42
                          I find that when we post here as individuals looking for advice we want everyone to be on our side, listen to what we are saying, whether its reasonable or not, and just agree.

                          Blink has that wonderful way of making you look at what you are writing and feeling and then look again and realize it isn't all about you....there are many people involved in divorce.

                          We don't always enjoy everyone's advice but there is a reason we come here...we are all going through the same thing and looking for answers and sometimes even friendships.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by tiredofthisnow View Post
                            I find that when we post here as individuals looking for advice we want everyone to be on our side, listen to what we are saying, whether its reasonable or not, and just agree.

                            Blink has that wonderful way of making you look at what you are writing and feeling and then look again and realize it isn't all about you....there are many people involved in divorce.

                            We don't always enjoy everyone's advice but there is a reason we come here...we are all going through the same thing and looking for answers and sometimes even friendships.
                            I AM STILL NOT GOING TO HOLD YOUR HAND!!!!11!

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by blinkandimgone View Post
                              I AM STILL NOT GOING TO HOLD YOUR HAND!!!!11!

                              well fine then........but I still value advice from everyone here whether I like it or not!

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by blinkandimgone View Post
                                Well, I feel dirty now.

                                Thanks Tayken!

                                I'm not here to be liked or hold peoples' hands. I really don't care if strangers on the intertube like me or not, lol. "I yam what I yam!"
                                And still unable to take positive feedback.

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