CBC Child support article

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In Quebec, ALL support goes through the enforcement agency as a matter of practice they garnish your salary right away. It normally happens within 30 days....

If at one point I were to not pay my ex any support it is because of the following.

1. I think CS amounts are too high an unfair so I don't want to pay that much.

2. If my kids are living with me then I am paying their expenses already why should I do that and then pay my ex for that too just so they aren't "poor" in that house. Sorry, we're divorced what she does with the kids on her time is not my concern (except for abuse). Support the kids when they are with you yourself and give some of that "motherly benefit" to counteract your poverty - I don't care not my business. Its not like I can give you the money and make sure you spend it on the kids and not breast implants.

3. Now, If I want to "NOT PAY" I basically have to quit my regular job, work under the table, go to jail now and then so I'll have to probably have to hugely destabilize my life so I won't want to even pay PART of the CS because all this BS forced to me lose my good income anyways...

I think the "control" thing about men is BS - most men don't want to get married anymore because they don't want to be CONTROLLED by the state if they get divorced

I frankly couldn't care what my ex does but I am in a situation where if she sits at home she augments her chance of getting custody again and also if we end up with shared and she is underemployed it cost me more so I want them to impute the maximum income to her possible and keep upping to give her an incentive to work HARD (and not just work). In 10 years, I don't want my loser ex being imputed only 25k/year while I make 150k+ year because I'll have to pay her more and its basically an engineered situation.

[Beachnana]

Or how a person can just go into the court house, sign a form for money "owing", have it notarized and filed for collection with FRO and its not even the proper amount as per the agreement filed with FRO.

Can you really do that? Not the "wrong amount bit". But just go to tnecourt and take an arrears form for section 7 expenses and then send it to FRO and they will seek the payment?

[Beachnana]

Not until the day that a prominent MP or MPP with clout is involved in it directly, sees what a mess the system is, and then uses their personal power to affect positive change....

Hmm. I'm pretty sure Pierre Trudeau paid CS and SS. The trouble is the rich donot need it, so why worry about themsystem. Plus if an important persons file comes across your desk it gets pushed up the pile pretty quickly.

[rockscan]

Thats what happened to my partner. He got a statement if arrears that was miscalculated and sent to him by FRO. He called his caseworker to dispute it and hasnt heard back from them. They said they would look into it and let him know. It wasnt even the % in their agreement filed with FRO nor was it an amount that was even close to what they updated last year. But it was notarized and submitted to FRO so they tried to recoup it from him.

[pokeman]

while we canadians walk around thinking
we are free, we are just like americans
but without the violence ...

listen up

Canadian Family Law is a Socialist system.

there is no way a female will pay child
support in cases where they make less $
than the male.

females without primary child custody are
about 10% in this country and the reason
they dont have custody is
- in prison
- infirm ( plugged in waiting to die )
- mentally incarsirated
- just didnt want them

dads, your thinking 'but she fvcked the
neighbor' or 'she pushed my sons face
into the hard tile floor'

dont matter - dont waste your $ feeding
lawyers , your just cheating your childrens
chance to go to college and so on at
which case they then label you 'dead beat'

there is always exception to above but you
have a 10% chance boys your judge wont be
all smooth in front like a ken doll, that
they understand we fathers feel/hurt and
cry cause our children are taken away from
us when we are perfectly good parents.

The days of male Chivalry are over, today
a male is penalized trying to provide for
his family - he will be called 'dominating'
or 'controller' for being the bread winner
even abuser.

dads, make sure your boys get this message
before their 18th

feminist will be all over this post, this
site is crawling with them and has a command
structure - it promotes 'status quo' cause
its all one sided right now

you will read 1000's of stories like the link in original post,
but you wont find 1 storey printed where
the mother attacked the father, beat/punched
him and abused the child by making them
bleed or how the dude under the bridge was once
a father with a job - cause she will get custody in this
'Socialist' system.

your intelligent readers, your most likely
going through a rough time, talk to your
family - your friends - see who has the
children and who is paying child support
and ask why.

your not alone.

luv u all.

[wantmyfreedom]

Pokeman - You need therapy. Dont whine about the system. Go see a qualified therapist. There's some great ones out there. Heck the counselling might even be covered by your employment insurance.

Socialist system??? I beg to differ. Canada is the best country in the world. Family law may need a few reforms but not worth your emotional reasoning.

The dude under the bridge that you referred to should have pursued that "therapy". It wasn't his legal financial obligations....It was his mental health that brought him there.

[Links17]

spousal support can be ordered just so the government doesnt. have to pay welfare ... And pokemon keep whining but not to just annoy people but instead to make people aware of what is going on and cause change.

[wantmyfreedom]

Change????

It is not the govermnent's responsibility to support/ compensate your former spouse due to your marriage breakdown.

It's yours ....

[Links17]

Change????
It is not the govermnent's responsibility to support/ compensate your former spouse due to your marriage breakdown.
It's yours ....

The government makes you support/compensate your former spouse irrespective of if her income is lower due marriage breakdown.

They also make you support/compensate her just because you earned more than her even if she made no sacrifice for the family because she has a "right" to her former standard of living.

[wantmyfreedom]

Exactly, the gov't MAKES u take responsibility instead of burdening the taxpayers.

Society doesn't care about the person YOU chose to marry hence the no fault divorce.

[Links17]

Exactly, the gov't MAKES u take responsibility instead of burdening the taxpayers.

Society doesn't care about the person YOU chose to marry hence the no fault divorce.

Exactly, it is privatized welfare.

Instead of the government paying for them like they do for everybody else, they use the fact you were previously married to them as an excuse to take the money from you even though you have no relationship with them, had no impact on their earnings etc....

No fault divorce isnt really related to this concept.... It just means divorce can be because you feel like it and that your attitude during the marriage (as long as it didnt directly impact earning capacity) doesnt impact the amount you pay or receive.

[wantmyfreedom]

Thank goodness most of the general public and the family law system don't buy into your twisted idealogy.

Marriage is a partnership whether you want to admit it or not.You'd get chewed out by any justice hearing you spout your nonsense.

[Links17]

Marriage is a partnership whether you want to admit it or not.

Oh really, ok let's say I agree - what about just "living" with somebody for a few years..... that also creates a potentially lifelong commitment.

You'd get chewed out by any justice hearing you spout your nonsense.

Obviously, they're the guardians of the system and they were former lawyers who have lined their pockets at the expense of families.

[wantmyfreedom]

Start another thread for the common law household.

So now legal professionals and judges are money hungry sharks? They're working hard to deal with unreasonable people like you.

Dude the system isn't broken. It's people like you that keeps the system going..... more money to pay your lawyer to spite your ex.

[Links17]

Start another thread for the common law household.

So now legal professionals and judges are money hungry sharks? They're working hard to deal with unreasonable people like you.

Dude the system isn't broken. It's people like you that keeps the system going..... more money to pay your lawyer to spite your ex.

No need to start a thread my point is made. The point being that somehow someway the richer spouse will pay the poor spouse - married, not married, sacrifice or not. Reading the case law you see the creative logic as it flashes into existence and is held on to.

Lawyers like almost everybody on this forum will tell you like billable hours and need to firmly controlled.

I dont pay lawyers.

The system isnt "broken" but there are some serious problems.