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Political Issues This forum is for discussing the political aspects of divorce: reform to divorce laws, men's rights, women's rights, injustices in the divorce system, etc.

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Old 10-11-2013, 04:33 PM
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I'm sorry, the role of the government should not be to protect you from absolutely everything that could possibly go wrong.
True but marriage is one thing that is dictated to you after the fact.

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If you want to get married, then do some research. Itís a contract like buying a house or a car. It has obligations and responsibilities, and they are not that difficult to research especially now.
And both if not all have someone explain your options, responsibilities, and make sure you qualify. Canít drive a car without insurance and the bank requests this on a mortgage for a homeÖ. Should need marriage insurance? I donít need to research this.

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If it was unconstitutional to have spousal support some rich person would have already taken it to the Supreme court. People go for far more trivial things. Please demonstrate where in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms it says you can't pay spousal support. (or sign up for payday loans at outrageous rates, or any number of other bad things).
Iíd like to see where this is a requirement either way and the government enforces payment on the individual? Any of these bad things do not consist of a lifetime of suffering by many of the members on here.

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Just because it is wrong or unfair, doesn't mean itís illegal or unconstitutional.
The entire family law system is a complete joke and needs a complete overhaul. For one when a lawyer can accept both male and female its completely wrong.
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Old 10-11-2013, 05:18 PM
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True but marriage is one thing that is dictated to you after the fact.
How is marriage dictated to you after the fact? You can find out before you pop the question. Don't blame the government because you didn't. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

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And both if not all have someone explain your options, responsibilities, and make sure you qualify. Can’t drive a car without insurance and the bank requests this on a mortgage for a home…. Should need marriage insurance? I don’t need to research this.
You can buy a car without insurance, you just can't have the dealer plate it for you without proof of insurance. But no one goes through everything line by line, they expect you to read the contract for yourself.


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I’d like to see where this is a requirement either way and the government enforces payment on the individual? Any of these bad things do not consist of a lifetime of suffering by many of the members on here.
You chose to get married. The government did not force you to marry. You are responsible for understanding the terms of the marriage contract.


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The entire family law system is a complete joke and needs a complete overhaul. For one when a lawyer can accept both male and female its completely wrong.
Not sure what you mean by that? Are you suggesting that a lawyer can represent both parties to a divorce? Or that we segregate lawyers into those who support men and those whose clients are women, because that doesn't work either.
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Old 10-30-2013, 03:21 PM
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How is marriage dictated to you after the fact? You can find out before you pop the question. Don't blame the government because you didn't. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
Can I go get a gun license, driverís license, meal, electrical appliance, Job, or ANY other item/service where the government has not stuck their nose in to educate me or protect my interests? Most laws and government run programs have some degree of educating the public in one way shape or form. Ignorance is no excuse till you understand the law. If the government made it mandatory to set guidelines and educate the public on marriage this would decline at least 50% or more no? This is a cash cow for the government period.

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You can buy a car without insurance, you just can't have the dealer plate it for you without proof of insurance. But no one goes through everything line by line, they expect you to read the contract for yourself.
Well the government states you need a used car package to protect yourself to any liability on the vehicle prior to the sale/purchase. They still educate you here also. This has to be done with cash also or no go period.

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You chose to get married. The government did not force you to marry. You are responsible for understanding the terms of the marriage contract.
Yes we all did, however where is the marriage contract? I didnít get one with my certificate? Then I should be educated on this no? Do you go to a restaurant and eat and look for the license, clean bill of health, tour the kitchen area, or ensure what you eat is fresh? Most likely not and you like the rest of us make sure the government for the most parts does their job to check on a regular basis. If I get very sick or worse isnít it my right to sue the government and the restaurant for not protecting me? Or is there a law for that that I should have read prior? Not if there was a big sign that said ďeat at your own riskĒ and contract with this.


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Not sure what you mean by that? Are you suggesting that a lawyer can represent both parties to a divorce? Or that we segregate lawyers into those who support men and those whose clients are women, because that doesn't work either.
I think they should mandate a lawyer to one sex because who is going to get good at their job if they donít care one way or another? Itís like going to finals in the Stanley cup and then picking players for each side? This donít make sense and why would a lawyer care if they are representing both sides?
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