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Old 10-24-2016, 10:21 PM
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I switched jobs in the summer and now work for a financial advisor. Today we received a call from a mother... CRA was denying her claim to child benefits saying one of her children did not qualify as a citizen. She has three children who are all Canadian citizens. Her husband made big money, however he fell ill and passed away 6 months ago. For the first time she has applied for child tax benefits and is being denied. She has to prove she has the children and that her one child is a Canadian citizen.

She has submitted proof her husband passed away, provide all the children's birth certificates and such and they still denied her. They are now requesting a notarized letter saying she is who she says she is, her children are Canadian citizens, her husband passed away and that she has work at the same job for 15 years.

It's not only men who have to prove their entitlement. Often CRA agents don't know what's going on because it's all computerized. That being said, in relationships it's usually the woman that claims he benefits. Dads don't care at that time. It's when separation happens dad care and by that time CRA is so use to paying the mom that dad now has to prove his entitlement (shared or primary parenting)


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I switched jobs in the summer and now work for a financial advisor. Today we received a call from a mother... CRA was denying her claim to child benefits saying one of her children did not qualify as a citizen. She has three children who are all Canadian citizens. Her husband made big money, however he fell ill and passed away 6 months ago. For the first time she has applied for child tax benefits and is being denied. She has to prove she has the children and that her one child is a Canadian citizen.

She has submitted proof her husband passed away, provide all the children's birth certificates and such and they still denied her. They are now requesting a notarized letter saying she is who she says she is, her children are Canadian citizens, her husband passed away and that she has work at the same job for 15 years.

It's not only men who have to prove their entitlement. Often CRA agents don't know what's going on because it's all computerized. That being said, in relationships it's usually the woman that claims he benefits. Dads don't care at that time. It's when separation happens dad care and by that time CRA is so use to paying the mom that dad now has to prove his entitlement (shared or primary parenting)


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is this the case?
CRA asks widow for letter from ?someone in authority? to prove she?s raising her daughter
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Old 10-25-2016, 01:03 AM
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Stop try to equivocate - You are effectively doing the same thing as racists do when they say "All lives matter"

Yes we can push, yes we can fight... but the point is why the presumption that when YOUR biological kids are with you in a house and 3rd party random women lives there that SHE gets the benefits, and this isnt some random whacko bureacrat implementing policy. IT IS THE OFFICIAL POLICY.

Sure others have challenges with government organizations but those are execution issues.

The OFFICIAL POLICY here is to give money to random women who happen to live in the same house as you because of prejudice and discrimination. Even if you can file a procedure to have it changed. The mere presumption is offensive and discriminatory.

If this was the other way around - I would worry for World War 3.
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Old 10-25-2016, 11:41 AM
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Yes we can push, yes we can fight... but the point is why the presumption that when YOUR biological kids are with you in a house and 3rd party random women lives there that SHE gets the benefits, and this isnt some random whacko bureacrat implementing policy. IT IS THE OFFICIAL POLICY.

Sure others have challenges with government organizations but those are execution issues.

The OFFICIAL POLICY here is to give money to random women who happen to live in the same house as you because of prejudice and discrimination. Even if you can file a procedure to have it changed. The mere presumption is offensive and discriminatory.

If this was the other way around - I would worry for World War 3.
Yes, I agree that it's absolutely ridiculous that another person with no legal guardianship of YOUR kids would get the money intended for THEM, just because this person resides with you and is linked with you financially.

The reason it started out like that was due to societal reasons which are simply not valid today.

Unfortunately, things like that are entrenched in law and CRA cannot do anything about it unless the laws are changed. And lawmakers usually have much greater priorities to focus on rather than changing piddly little laws that don't have a huge impact on the majority of the population. And as though that wasn't enough, I have seen, in my workplace where we have policies to ensure we interpret the laws that affect us properly, that when laws DO get changed, they usually miss the mark of fixing what they were meant to address in the first place.
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Find me a law on the books that discriminates against women that hasn't been changed?

Its a priority when it affects women - only because there are government funded organizations that do just that.
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Feminist groups make sure of that

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Find me a law on the books that discriminates against women that hasn't been changed?

Its a priority when it affects women - only because there are government funded organizations that do just that.
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