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Old 06-29-2014, 04:23 PM
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From the top down politicians and lawmakers have known the Divorce Process is broken, Reports like "for the sake of the children" by and for the government 10 years ago has been ignored.

The child support guidelines formula for calculating child support was proven flawed yet the formula has never been changed. A fair calculation would mean there would be little need for Court. (the present system encourages court)

The government in it's infinite wisdom forces a support payer to continue child support and even increases it to pay tuition for Adult children...where married couples can decide on there own (more needless court)

The serial relationships with multiple partners some people have and the courts ease to pointing to any ex partner with money to force him/her to be responsible for other peoples kids (more needless court)

It's clear "that people divorcing must bear the responsibility of a lower standard of living" but the Government has decided to try and maintain the same standard of living for a custodial parent.....even when the custodial parent earns more or gets into another relationship. (more needless court)

I'll leave it on one last note....A over thirty woman had sex with a "minor boy" and got pregnant, the boy was later ordered to pay child support.
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I don't know if there would end up being 9...once the 40% is reached it would result in the CS offset and then if it continued it would just reverse the other way...
Still frustrated.....arrrrgh...

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Change CS dramatically at 40% and at 60% access

Three different CS allocations, for two divide points. People fight about getting from <39% to 40%, and about going from >60% to 59%. Big fights sometimes.

Change CS more gradually every 10% access
Ten different ratios of CS allocation, for nine divide points. Would people fight about changing smaller increments of money? Who knows.

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I'll leave it on one last note....A over thirty woman had sex with a "minor boy" and got pregnant, the boy was later ordered to pay child support.
I think we've discussed that one before:

http://www.ottawadivorce.com/forum/f...ort-him-16718/

US case in the 1990s. Not sure how it's relevant to anything here and now.
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Why would you want to ruin a billion dollar industry?
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Why would you want to ruin a billion dollar industry?
where is your proof that its a billion dollar industry?? Its not a business.
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where is your proof that its a billion dollar industry?? Its not a business.
Don't be so naive - The complete and utter opposition of the law society to having "A Rebuttable presumption of shared custody" is the root of this house of cards.


For Quebec

Custody time of an (ACCESS) parent is determined by the # of hours they have access including school/daycare etc....

That is then converted to days and then take over a year to determine if it is "shared custody"

In Quebec:
~0 - No access rights - you can be ordered to pay an additional 20% child suppot
<20 - Regular Access rights; you pay full suppot
20-40 - Extended Access Rights - you get a 20% reduction in CS
40% - CS is pro-rated AND you can now collect half the child benefits
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where is your proof that its a billion dollar industry?? Its not a business.
The Big Business of Divorce

Us numbers but I'm sure we are not too far off.
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Don't be so naive - The complete and utter opposition of the law society to having "A Rebuttable presumption of shared custody" is the root of this house of cards.


For Quebec

Custody time of an (ACCESS) parent is determined by the # of hours they have access including school/daycare etc....

That is then converted to days and then take over a year to determine if it is "shared custody"

In Quebec:
~0 - No access rights - you can be ordered to pay an additional 20% child suppot
<20 - Regular Access rights; you pay full support
20-40 - Extended Access Rights - you get a 20% reduction in CS
40% - CS is pro-rated AND you can now collect half the child benefits
That makes sense, as the more you have the kids the more income you require for additional food, increase utilities, etc. Most parents would fall in the 20-40% range and that 20% reduction would be useful towards food and such. Problem being, people will still fight over 40% because of the further reductions.

50-50 equal access from the beginning, unless there are extreme reasons why it can't happen. Extreme doesn't mean because one person was the "primary" caregiver while the other parent was out working, but in cases of child abuse or the like, then sway from 50-50. It has been said before, that those who really are only fighting for 50-50 for CS purposes will fall flat on their face when it actually happens, but everyone owes it to their children to try.
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The Big Business of Divorce

Us numbers but I'm sure we are not too far off.
I'm not quite so bitter and cynical, but I do agree that it's in the best interests of lawyers, judges (all former lawyers) and politicians (often former lawyers) to ensure that laws remain murky and contentious so there will always be a need for lawyers.
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