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Old 06-28-2014, 04:00 PM
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I'm just wondering why Family Law is reluctant to change CS...and where I am going with this relates to Table amounts.
I currently pay Table amount of CS because I am unable to reach the 40% threshold to have shared parenting. My work prevents this - and until I can later that - I am currently at about 32%.
Is it so difficult to set up a graduated scale of CS payment based on the some formula taking into account the number of hours or days the OP has with the children?
I could turn my back on my kids (which I would never do) and still only pay what is the Table amount.
Yet when I have the kids - I buy food - have beds for them to sleep in - they use utilities - I buy clothes - gifts - meals out - spend gas to take them to their activities - car wear etc...
Has any lawyer or action group ever lobbied to try to get the rules concerning CS altered? If not....why not?

I'm not disputing the need for CS - but an all or nothing based on a threshold of 40% access time seems very one-sided.

Maybe I'm just living in a fantasy land

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You have a good idea, it just the logistics that would be a nightmare.

How to figure out the hours especially with holidays etc would be very hard. Does the CS amount get changed every month due to maybe having more hours or less hours?

Easy to say that things should be changed, harder to do. What are your ideas on this?
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How do they determine 40%??
Is it nights you have the kids?
is it 'days' you are deemed to be in care/charge of the kids? If the kids come to my house after school and I am home all day and I am the person of contact for that day- does that count?
is it hours?
As for vacations - I would suspect they would cancel themselves out.
I agree - it can me a logistical nightmare...but maybe there should be levels then..0-10% of the time...10-20%...20-30%...then 30-40%.

I currently pay 1610.00/mth - 2 kids - Table amount
If I get to 39%...I still pay that.
If I get to 40%...it drops by 650.00

If they can drop CS then...why can't they drop it gradually as you move away from the 40% threshold?

Just think this is a very unfair position for the payor ...man or woman...
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Isn't it Quebec that calculated CS based on percentage of time with each parent? And it isn't as cut and dry as 40%
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yep...they do...doesn't help me here in Ontario though
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Actually, regardless of the time the children are with each parent they should look at the logistics. We provide each child with their own room. They have their own laptops, bikes, clothing here. From winter wear to rain boots. Fishing rods, etc. Our costs are the same but we fund everything twice - at their mothers and again here. In fact, many times we fund it multiple times since some stuff goes there and falls into a black hole if you know what I mean.
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Actually, regardless of the time the children are with each parent they should look at the logistics. We provide each child with their own room. They have their own laptops, bikes, clothing here. From winter wear to rain boots. Fishing rods, etc. Our costs are the same but we fund everything twice - at their mothers and again here. In fact, many times we fund it multiple times since some stuff goes there and falls into a black hole if you know what I mean.
I got some stuff back from the black hole unexpectedly the other day. It was weird! But lucky for me, my ex's black hole stems from forgetfulness and disorganization, not malice.
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Actually, regardless of the time the children are with each parent they should look at the logistics. We provide each child with their own room. They have their own laptops, bikes, clothing here. From winter wear to rain boots. Fishing rods, etc. Our costs are the same but we fund everything twice - at their mothers and again here. In fact, many times we fund it multiple times since some stuff goes there and falls into a black hole if you know what I mean.
Honestly the material stuff isn't as important. You buy clothes and it is assumed mom buy clothes, same with bikes, etc. I think the biggest think is housing. We bought a three bedroom house and just built a forth. Our housing costs are the same whether we have the kids 20%, 30%, 40% or 80%. The only thing that really changes is our food costs and maybe utility costs slightly. If it is working for Quebec why can't it work in other provinces?
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We pay full guideline amount and then some. And we get emails for us to buy shoes for the kids. Why? Why does she even think this is appropriate?
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I beg to differ about the material stuff. It costs a fortune to clothe kids and put them in winter wear because they don't come with anyone. And then times that by 5 kids... we have a six bedroom home and we designed it ourselves to ensure every kid got relatively the same size room.

Then outfit every kid in their chosen sports. And then add gas. I'm sure we spend 200$ a month now that we aren't idling in her drive way for 20-30 min 3 times a week and not carting them back and forth every night just for them to sleep there and come back here in the morning.

...school uniforms. Field trips. School fees....
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