Do you think that woman receive preferential treatment

[JustChillin]

Originally Posted by bayleaf

You're right, the fact that her pockets were much deeper than mine had nothing to do with gender bias. It's just another significant defect of the family 'justice' system.

As for gender bias, I'm interested in your comments on these two facts?

1. I dont' know the current stats, but the vast majority of contested custody decisions go in favour of the mother, where sole custody is awarded.

2. The state (government) will do everything to enforce child support orders on behalf of custodial parents (mostly women, see #1), but will do virtually nothing to help access parents (mostly men, see #1) enforce access.

Oh, bull, I know WAY too many single mothers getting little to zip child support.

[dadtotheend]

Originally Posted by JustChillin

Do you mean by preferential treatment doing most of the child-rearing? Having to make all the child-sitting arrangements? Getting sporadic child-support payments (if any, sometimes?)

Oh, right, let's take a look around the country, and the world and all cry about how bad men have it.

Do you mean that we should cry about how badly men are denied access by vindictive, selfish moms who want to stick it to them even if it means depriving thier children of a relationship with their Dad?

Or do you mean that we should cry for the men living in their cars because they have been bled financially dry by lazy, entitlement driven ex's who see a street lined with someone's money to pay for the bon bons they eat while seated on the couch watching American Idol?

Making such ridiculous stereotypical statements like the one you made above contributes nothing to the discussion. On the contrary it fans the flames and encourages the likeminded stereotypical responses I just posted.

And it makes you look a clown.

[JustChillin]

Originally Posted by dadtotheend

Do you mean that we should cry about how badly men are denied access by vindictive, selfish moms who want to stick it to them even if it means depriving thier children of a relationship with their Dad?

Or do you mean that we should cry for the men living in their cars because they have been bled financially dry by lazy, entitlement driven ex's who see a street lined with someone's money to pay for the bon bons they eat while seated on the couch watching American Idol?

Making such ridiculous stereotypical statements like the one you made above contributes nothing to the discussion. On the contrary it fans the flames and encourages the likeminded stereotypical responses I just posted.

And it makes you look a clown.

Well, somebody has a major chip on his shoulder.
Men who aren't involved with their children are well practiced at playing the TIRED, boring "selfish, vindictive mother keeping the poor hard-done by father away from the kiddies" card. Snore. See, Mr. Silly Clown, if women were the monsters you THINK they all are, I guess more children would be in need of intervention.

I would LOVE to have the easy job too many fathers have. Yes, too many, honey, and if you learned to calm down and be rational, you wouldn't be so ready to blame all women for your problems. YOU are the one stereotyping women, honey.

Bon bons? What a joke...............and honey, I couldn't be a clown if I tried. I'm rational, fair and intelligent. See, I'm not one of your family members or friends.
Fathers' rights activists do themselves and their children (whom they profess to care about) no favours when they vindictively go after their exes. Take your obvious women-hating elsewhere, or better yet, get professional help.

I love it when some of the dudes only started caring about the kids when the increases in child-support took effect. But have no fear, boys, just run off to another province, and it makes it SO hard for your exes to get practically anything! (but that doesn't happen, does it?)

[dadtotheend]

Originally Posted by JustChillin

Well, somebody has a major chip on his shoulder.

On the contrary, you appear to have missed my point altogether.

It is you who made some very stereotypical comments above and I responded in kind with likeminded outrageously stereotypical responses in an attempt to highlight how similarly offensive yours were. And in case you missed it, I explictly said that my comments were as such.

Evidently all that accomplished was to fan the flames, just as I said they would. And what happened then? It got real personal didn't it? Didn't contribute anything to the discussion did it? You walked right into that one didn't you?

And BTW, I have sole custody of my children, and have to deal with the same types of problems you do.

Pursuant to our final court order, my four years of SS ended last month. I abided by the law and willingly made every payment on time and in full. Last week, my ex was supposed to start paying me CS. You know what? After paying her $40,000 in support and $40,000 for a house she didn't put a penny into and that I paid for completely, she told me "she can't afford to pay". Now she's suddenly telling me that she's been laid off work. Instead of abiding by the order that so handsomely paid her for four years, she didn't pay. I now will likely be forced to register with the FRO and go back to court to get the amount adjusted, pursuant to the court order.

People screw other people around, not men or women, fathers or mothers.

Finally, I love my living arrangements with my kids just the way they are. I don't pine for Mom's "easy job". I don't blame women for any of my problems. My problems are my problems. I take full ownership of them.

[billiechic]

As anyone who is an active participant on this board would know, Dadtotheend has SOLE CUSTODY, and rightly so.

You may have a reason to be bitter and pissed off, but don't take it out on people you don't know. If you can't add anything constructive..zip it!

[JustChillin]

Originally Posted by billiechic

As anyone who is an active participant on this board would know, Dadtotheend has SOLE CUSTODY, and rightly so.

You may have a reason to be bitter and pissed off, but don't take it out on people you don't know. If you can't add anything constructive..zip it!

So? And just who is the bitter and pissed off one? The person whose opinion you don't agree with?

My, take an issue with all the blatant women-bashing here and get flack. Well.... for somebody with sole custody, he sure is rather, well, bitter, eh?

[billiechic]

Originally Posted by JustChillin

So? And just who is the bitter and pissed off one? The person whose opinion you don't agree with?

My, take an issue with all the blatant women-bashing here and get flack. Well.... for somebody with sole custody, he sure is rather, well, bitter, eh?

NO, I don't agree with your opinion, especially since it is very stereotypical (as already pointed out by DTTE).
I don't think there is all that much women bashing. I've read this entire thread and while there is some bashing, for the most part the opinions are substantiated by facts.

Sounds like you are just as bitter as DDTE. But at least he is able to admit it!

[spiritflower]

.......... right!

[dadtotheend]

Originally Posted by JustChillin

So? And just who is the bitter and pissed off one? The person whose opinion you don't agree with?

My, take an issue with all the blatant women-bashing here and get flack. Well.... for somebody with sole custody, he sure is rather, well, bitter, eh?

I'm not bitter. You started in with your trailer trash bs stereotype, and you meant it.

I didn't mean it and I said as much right away. I did it to show you what an ignoramous you made of yourself, and you swallowed it hook, line and sinker by responding like a hater.

Keep it up. You're digging yourself a bigger hole every time.

[dadtotheend]

Originally Posted by JustChillin

Oh, bull, I know WAY too many single mothers getting little to zip child support.

Well, maybe you live in a place where there are lots of single moms getting stiffed. But that doesn't necessarily mean that your experience is representative of the entire population.