Do you think that woman receive preferential treatment

[billiechic]

Seems like we have 2 people with huge chips on their shoulders. Stop focussing on blaming the court system and DO something about your own situation.
The problems in the court system can only be solved when more individuals act to make things right. You aren't going to change the outcome of every court action, but you can influence it.

And get some counselling. That kind of attitude is harmful to you AND your kids.

[Lanfear]

Originally Posted by HammerDad

And while there are bad fathers in this world there are just as many bad mothers. You do know that per capita it is women who are more likely not to pay child support when ordered (and I say when ordered, because for some reason they also get off more often). But I am sure you wouldn't care to know that.

Exactly, it goes both ways. My step-kids mother only decided to take them back 50% of the time because we filed for child support.

And I'm not surprised that women are less likely to pay child support when ordered. They tend to feel entitled to more than the father. Something I've come across in my personal experience... but I can't say it is fact. It really goes both ways, every case should be assessed individually before you make assumptions.

[billiechic]

Originally Posted by Lanfear

And I'm not surprised that women are less likely to pay child support when ordered. They tend to feel entitled to more than the father. It really goes both ways, every case should be assessed individually before you make assumptions.

Then don't make those assumptions. You just contradicted yourself.

[susiecanoe]

The real issue is not who is a better, men or woman, but rather a court system that allows people to break court orders with no consequences for thier actions. I know both men and women who dont pay child support, both men and woman who alienate the children from the other parent, and both sexes who are more concerned with being right than getting it right. AND the courts do nothing to prevent this. As my lawyer once said to me, a court order is only as good as the ability to enforce it. And our system does not enforce it. Been there, done that, have not seen child support, medical or university expenses paid in over 10 years while he lives in a large home with ample income to pay, yet breaks every single order outlined in our court order. Unless I win the lottery, there will be no recourse as I dont have any more funds to pay for legal counsel. anpoowowotuqrsissI

[dadtotheend]

FRO in Ontario?

[susiecanoe]

They are the biggest joke. FRO is incompetent and ineffective. Did you know, that if you file a case with FRO, it can take up to two years before anything is done. When the other party gets the papers from FRO, ( as happened in my case), they just start a new motion ( usually to change the current order and rescind child support or change the terms or whatever) and then you spend the next two years in court trying to get that resolved. Meanwhile, FRO has done nothing. And it has cost you in legal fees what you lost in child support. o Unless you like to chase good money after bad, I have figured that if a party is not going to pay, they are not going to pay.

[logicalvelocity]

Originally Posted by susiecanoe

They are the biggest joke. FRO is incompetent and ineffective. Did you know, that if you file a case with FRO, it can take up to two years before anything is done. When the other party gets the papers from FRO, ( as happened in my case), they just start a new motion ( usually to change the current order and rescind child support or change the terms or whatever) and then you spend the next two years in court trying to get that resolved. Meanwhile, FRO has done nothing. And it has cost you in legal fees what you lost in child support. o Unless you like to chase good money after bad, I have figured that if a party is not going to pay, they are not going to pay.

and did you know by default - Some enforcement measures that FRO yields are quasi criminal in nature such as incarceration. Thankfully, it takes time rather than railroad a parent directly to jail on untested evidence during a Default hearing.

[susiecanoe]

FRO does not work in the interests of anyone. Except of course the well paid government bureaucrats that work there.

[logicalvelocity]

LOL, yes and their tenure is pensionable. Just a typical bureaucracy with broad powers is my view.

[Mess]

I don't believe the FRO is particularly well-organized, well-run or designed properly. But I do think that it should not "work in the interests of anyone". It should not take sides or make judgements, it should just enforce court orders.