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Old 06-26-2007, 03:46 PM
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Canadian Institute for Health Information
28 November 2001

Suicide Leading Cause of Injury-Related Deaths

Among Middle-Aged Men in Ontario, Reports CIHI.

(Ottawa) Suicides account for one-third of all injury-related deaths iin Ontario, reports the Canadian Institute for Health Information (CIHI). According to the Institute latest report, there were 1,012 deaths due to suicides and self-inflicted injuries (including poisonings) in 1998-99. The majority (79%) of these suicide-related deaths was among men and the mean age of death was 44. "The statistics show that, on average, three people die of suicide and self-inflicted injuries every day in Ontario. Although suicides are usually associated with teens and young males, they are also a major
health concern among middle-aged men," explains Greg Webster, CIHI Manager of Clinical Registries. "Our report shows that suicides were the leading cause of injury-related deaths among men aged 35 to 64, accounting for 39% of all injury deaths in this group. By comparison, suicides accounted for 25% of all injury deaths among teenagers aged 10 to 19."

According to a suicide report below just released in Ontario, 79% (4 out of every 5) suicide deaths in Ontario are men with a mean age of 44. Statistically, a man commits suicide in Ontario every 10 hours:

17 - men per week
66 - men per month
800 - men per year.

The report indicates the top 2 reasons for male suicide:

- loss of job; and
- loss of family and children through separation and divorce.

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These statistics are very sad. It time for the government to wake up and smell the coffee and openly admit that there is a significant problem with the family law system in this country.


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I agree LV.

It's time they make court decisions on a even playing field.

I just continue to hear stories about men/fathers taking the FALL.
Big time.

The financial rape of men needs to stop. Why does it seem to be a common
default when you hear the term "spousal support" or "abuse" that the onus automatically falls on the husbands.!!

There are men, husbands, father's out there that love their children
and which to continue supporting them the best they can.

Really, at times, it sickens me.
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In going through my research for spousal support trying to figure out the worst case scenario that I'll be up against, I found an alarming amount of articles, and news paper stories relating to men in Canada killing themselves once a support order was was put in place, or they file for bankruptcy. How many men have to die before the courts and law makers take notice of a failed system! I shudder to think of the amount of men out there living in poverty trying to pay unrealistic amounts of money where the slightest interruption in income could send them over the edge.

I'm appalled that my Canada of all countries has let this happen.

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...a failed system!
A failed system is exactly what it is... for BOTH sides. My ex is presently over $10,000.00 in arrears, despite going on several tropical vacations, fancy restaurant dinners and a healthy gambling habit (I know this for a fact, he had to show his bank statements in his disclosure.) And he is crying "I'm poor!" in court.

My friend's husband died and she gets a $281 'Orphan's Allowance' every month, on time, for each child, until her 3 children finish their university/college education.

Personally, and I know it sounds harsh... but it's a sorry state of this country when my friend who is a widow gets her support money full amount on time every month... and my kids who HAVE a living father who sees them *maybe* once a month sends what he wants when he feels like it. My ex provides NO physical help to me whatsoever in raising my children... personally, my kids and I would at least fare better financially if he were dead.

I know my feelings are harsh and severe, but they are my feelings from my experiences.

The system certainly has failed so many of us...
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I have huge sympathy to you phoenix, but I must say its exactly that thinking that puts men in a place where they think everyone would be better off if they were dead.....and that thinking is tragic. If he's not paying and he his able to, he's a low life p***k who should be dealt with by means of forcing the payment.
Your comparison to your friend being so lucky that her husband died frankly turns my stomach.

I know you're upset, but hijacking a thread about men killing themselves to complain about your personal situation and wishing him dead is just not fair to any of us that are desperately trying to find ways of making everyone happy and still have an existence.

I'm sorry but your post should have gone in a different thread.

I do wish you luck though....none of us are in good shape...or we wouldn't be here.

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Please don't put words in my reply that AREN'T there...

Please notice that I said "My ex provides NO physical help to me whatsoever in raising my children" -- none, nada, zero, zippideedoodah. Therefore, to me and the HUGE amount of work I do raising HIS kids 24/7, he may as well be dead.

For my kids, who he sees MAYBE once a month (and that's on a good month) and for 2 hours maximum, well I think they have more of a relationship happening with our mailman... again, he may as well be dead.

These are all choices HE HAS MADE. Not me. He has chosen not to be involved in their lives.

I didn't say I wish he were dead... I say he may as well be dead considering he CHOOSES not to be involved in his kids' lives, he CHOOSES to spend his money on things other than his kids and then cries "poor" and that our flawed system gives money to other single moms... which I find ironic. Essentially MY tax money is paying her orphans' allowance.

I did not say my friend is "lucky"... I simply said that this flawed system ensures that she, as a single mom gets consisten child support from our government. I, as a single mom, do not have that help -- and I sure could use it.

And I disagree about where my post belongs... just because I offer a different viewpoint doesn't mean my opinions don't belong.
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There are many horror stories as a result from the Family Law System from both sides but no matter what the real victims are the children. For some reason they seem to be have forgotten in the ordeal.


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Old 07-10-2007, 09:36 PM
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I'll have to disagree phoenix, again I'm sorry for your situation, but my point is the thread is about something other than what you posted about. We all need sensitivity to everyone's situation, and I don't think referring to people being better off if someone is dead in a thread about men committing suicide is appropriate. The inference is the issue.

Again, I am sorry for the situation you and your children are in...its terribly sad and horribly selfish of him.
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...then we agree to disagree... the whole idea of message boards is to discuss topics that often touch on many different aspects of that topic.
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