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Old 01-29-2006, 08:05 AM
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Then I suggest you practice what you preach and be more respectful to all of the members in this group.
Grace,

What are you suggesting. That I should not be hard on people who paint a false picture and want sympathy, when they present lies or half-truths. Should I sit idle while people are looking for ways to take kids from one parent? Are you saying I am screwing over people in this forum? I am telling it like it is and I call it like I see it. Look at Sasha's post above you. She claims her ex is making $7000 in take home (after tax). Yet only (only!) receives $1000. That doesn't add up? So what's the real story here. Its like peeling away layers of an onion to get to the core of the problem or issue. And I think if people were to do that themselves, they would stop all the vindictiveness.
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Old 01-29-2006, 10:16 AM
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I'm simply asking that you be respectful to all member of the forum. Your coming across as the bitter ex, which will not earn you any respect from the members. I'm going to practice what I preach and take the high road on this one, enough said.
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Well, my in-box is being flooded with people asking for help. You're right... enough said.
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Old 01-29-2006, 12:17 PM
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If
by Rudyard Kipling

If you can keep your head when all about you


Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,

But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,

Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated don't give way to hating,

And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;

If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster

And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken

Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,

And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings

And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings

And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew

To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you

Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,

Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,

If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute

With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,

And—which is more—you'll be a Man, my son!
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"A fool and his money are soon parted" - Thomas Tusser
"A fool and his children are soon parted" - DD

Nice poem Bearall. Kipling sure had his share of issues. Beaten by his foster mother, losing his children. Going through war and colionalism in India.

An ironic folly of being a man, is to take it on the chin and be better for it. And becuase of that, you'll be forever on this list wondering "What the h*ll happened"
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Old 01-29-2006, 02:15 PM
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What I love about these forums is the 'diversity' and 'intensity' on how information is shared.

Just as there are some lawyers who are relaxed and others that are bulldogs ... so too it is with how information is presented. Some people come across as being soft and others strong.

We should be appreciative of the variety of communication styles exhibited by board members ... sometimes, softness is needed and sometimes stongness or to the point is needed.

The fact that someone has taken time out of their day to post or reply to board members speaks volumes ... and yes, sometimes the delivery of the message can be taken many ways and lets just remember that its the message that we are after and not necessarily the emotions which it may elicit.

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Decent DaD
YOu remind me so much of a certain friend I know. He tells it like it is, no holds barred, but he's not abusive in his speech. By the way, despite his thick exterior he's alot of fun and very kind-hearted.
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Old 01-29-2006, 08:07 PM
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Sometimes it takes a wise person to play the fool !! Aesops Fables)

Here's another to think about in regard to family law and it is applied whether you notice it or not. Believe me both genders are fair game for different purposes and agendas

"A man's weakness is in his facade of strength""A woman's strength is in her facade of weakness"



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"A fool and his money are soon parted" - Thomas Tusser
"A fool and his children are soon parted" - DD

Nice poem Bearall. Kipling sure had his share of issues. Beaten by his foster mother, losing his children. Going through war and colionalism in India.

An ironic folly of being a man, is to take it on the chin and be better for it. And becuase of that, you'll be forever on this list wondering "What the h*ll happened"
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Child support is for the child.

Why would you not want your child to have everything you have to offer?

Could I support them on my own? YES. But with their father's contribution they get to have some niceties - like their own rooms; and new clothing and sporting activites and the occasional vacation.

I would (and do) spend every last penny I earn on my children - even if they were not in my primary care.

It seems to me that those who complain about CS, complain because they don't like to see their EX getting the money and having control over how it is spent.
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Sk8r, I think you're absolutely right!

DecentDad, if you think my story "doesn't add up", ask me questions. What do you want to know? Where's the confusion? And yes, I think if he's bringing home $7000 on average, his $1010 warrants an "only" in front of it. Again, if that doesn't make sense to you, ask me why I feel that way; don't just assume there's a 'back story' that I'm not disclosing. IMO, support and advice is meaningless if it's given to someone who is not upfront about detailing their situation.
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