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Old 12-05-2014, 12:07 PM
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...relating to a video game that appeals to the degenerates of society...
I think that's a large net you are casting there in applying your label.

GTA 5 (or any of its earlier versions), is not my type of game, but there are completely normal folks who play it, because it is just that...a video game.
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I think that's a large net you are casting there in applying your label.

GTA 5 (or any of its earlier versions), is not my type of game, but there are completely normal folks who play it, because it is just that...a video game.

Your definition of normal is different from mine. I strongly believe that anyone playing a game that depicts this level violence is disturbed. I'll even say sadistic.

Much like watching child porn. It is so damn wrong.
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GTA 5 (or any of its earlier versions), is not my type of game, but there are completely normal folks who play it, because it is just that...a video game.
You guys must have hit a hot button for me or something. Can't stop my opinion here!

Anything that glorifies crime (video games, movies, TV, parents, older siblings, gang members in the bad neighbourhood, etc) can desensitize people to it, make it seem normal, make it seem easy, make it seem cool. Mature people can resist this, but for some, and especially impressionable people who have not finished forming their identity, it's insidious and can promote development of many antisocial attitudes.

Parents who suitably monitor their children's consumption of such media can offset this with appropriate discussion, but we all know that happens less than we would like.

Good thing this thread was off-topic to begin with!
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Catering to women, who are responsible for the lion's share of shopping for their families, is a brilliant marketing move. Specifically excepting a product from your shelves that promotes violence against women and publicising your exception is merely another marketing move.

I've never been a "TarJay" kind of girl, but if they make this kind of corporate move, I'll support them in the future.

As to Cosby - well, I suspect he has no marketing moves left.

^^^ well put. A wise political, marketing, economic, and moral move on Target's part.
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...I strongly believe that anyone playing a game that depicts this level violence is disturbed. I'll even say sadistic.

Much like watching child porn. It is so damn wrong.
Playing a video game, is nothing like watching child porn. Not even remotely.
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Playing a video game, is nothing like watching child porn. Not even remotely.

Actually it is. When you have scenes depicting torture with sexual overtones ...it is misogynistic.
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...impressionable people who have not finished forming their identity, it's insidious and can promote development of many antisocial attitudes.

Parents who suitably monitor their children's consumption of such media can...
Definitely, it's not a game that children should be playing. Which is why it's rated M, 17+.
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Actually it is. When you have scenes depicting torture with sexual overtones ...it is misogynistic.
Again, not remotely related to watching child porn.
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The game was taken off the shelves due to customer complaints at Target and K-mart.

People were so disturbed that they wrote to the retailers demanding refunds.
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To my mind, the difference in the violence is the criminality of it. In CoD you are a soldier shooting enemies in warfare. In GTA, you are a criminal stealing cars, shooting innocent bystanders and murdering prostitutes.
Yes, GTA does glorify crime. But if they pulled the parts where there is violence against females, you'd be OK with the game? Or at least feel better that it was only men getting beaten and murdered?

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Both glorify violence, but GTA glorifies crime as well, and is misogynist. For Target to portray that they singled it out for the violence against women is, as Mcdreamy suggested, probably a marketing ploy. There are other games that glorify crime and other games that are misogynist but I guess they don't have the publicity of GTA.
As was mentioned, if this is a marketing ploy, it is a pretty bad one to anyone who really thinks about it. GTA V came out over a year ago, so the VAST majority of sales of that game is done. Now, the game is pretty much a dust collector on the shelf or is being flogged in the pre-played bin. Target didn't have issue with selling the game upon initial release. I bet some of their stores even had midnight openings to sell it. The violence in the game has been there in the 4 previous GTA's, so it isn't like this is new. They've made their money from GTA V (and every other version from the GTA brand). Now that it isn't a big sale, they'll make the token gesture of removing a non-selling game from their shelves. Good work Target!

I am not suggesting that GTA V is in anyway a good game or whatever. I've never played, it isn't my type of game. It is a violent game. But if your sole beef with it is that there is violence against women, you are focusing on a very small part of the actual problem with the game. And the actual problem is that is too violent and glorifies crime....of all kinds....against everyone.
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