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Old 08-09-2017, 10:45 AM
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LOL Marriage today a "contract" .....??? At first I was thinking, "No way its not a contract!! My ex broke the contract, terminated the contract and received a win fall for breaking the contract". Historically, standard business contracts require 2 or more parties to agree to a set of terms and sign a document which becomes legally binding. If one of the parties broke any of the terms of that contract, that same party would be liable for any damages, let alone entitled to any settlement funds. In my view this is ethical.

Marriage did start out in the same way, with "Fault Divorce". When one spouse was caught either having an affair, committing a crime, was abusive etc... that spouse would not be entitled to specific luxuries such as spousal support, 50% of the property value, custody of children, retirement savings etc....depending on how the "contract" was broken. In my view this is ethical. Two people made a contract, agreed on that contract and should honor that contract. You break it...you loose your side of the investment. Cost of doing business.

However, today we have the lovely "No Fault Divorce"; brought in first in the great state of California. The one state with the highest number of affairs per capita, as well as breast implants. I can see why they instated it. It changed the rules of marriage completely. For the first time ever, those that want to be deceitful, harmful and corrupt may do so with no penalty, no financial loss and no shame. Easy out. I'll let you guys research the percentage of politicians who have cheated on their spouse. THEN you add in the Feminists. What better way to empower a women than allow her to just get up and walk out of a marriage without any financial loss than to instate "No fault divorce". No commitments ever!! And today, 69% of divorces are initiated by women. Go women!!!

My lovely ex wife cheated on me. I forgave her. My lovely ex wife cheated on me a second time. I forgave her. My lovely ex wife cheated on me a third time. I did not know about it. My lovely ex wife beat me. I forgave her. My lovely ex wife cheated on me a forth time and left me. Why did I stay with her? Many good friends of mine that have been through it already said....its cheaper to save the marriage than it is to divorce. Their right. Divorce cost me 50% of my kids, 55% my salary, 100% my net worth and 10% my retirement. I never broke the contract; but yet I lost. She had full control over if we divorced or not with no penalties toward her. My lovely ex wife, gets a grossed up salary of approx $70-80K from what I give her and the Trudeau Baby Benefit. Why would she try to save a marriage? She won the lottery!!!!!!!!


So....to complete my rant; yes marriage is still a contract. Just the rules are not defined as one would assume in a standard business contract. Which is maybe why so many young people still sign the dotted line, they are assuming its a equal contract, like I did. Today the marriage contract holds zero benefit for anyone employed and earning a good salary. Why would anyone sign a contract so one sided in a business deal? You think Bill Gates would sign a contract with his business partners that state they can walk away with 50% his company, when ever they feel like it? Ya right!

Marriage - Yes its a contract. Not a good one, actually a really bad one. "depending on your income of course "
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Old 08-09-2017, 07:24 PM
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Every situation is supposed to be weighed on its own facts and then compared to previous cases (case law).

You might find it interesting to read older case law (from 40 years ago). My "take" on it is that whomever got the kids got the house/whomever got the house got the kids.... and with it came $. Most women 40+ years ago (and many today) could not possibly come close to the earning capacity of their ex's. So naturally courts set up parameters to ensure that women and children were not "left at the curb" when husband decided it was time for a new model. I don't think that is unfair whatsoever. Call me a feminist (or whatever) but you have to realize that gone are the days when women have to live in silent servitude. You should hope the same for your daughters.

EVERYONE pays for consequences of failed marriage.

Alas "contract" law doesn't always protect one nowadays (as I found out). I was a full partner with my ex. When our marriage ended I was left liable for 100% of the business debt. Had I not been married to my partner I would have had recourse. Unfortunately for me (but bonus for my cheating ex) Family Law overrode contract law and I was unable to pursue my ex for the money I was defrauded. BTW I am female and while I am entitled to indefinite SS (yes even after he is collecting a pension) I will never recover financially from my losses from our business relationship.
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Ice-T of Body Count and Max Cavalera have this to say:

ALL LOVE IS LOST!

[Ice-T:]
I thought you were my friend. I gave you my trust. I would've died for you
Then the second I turn my back, you fuck me over?
All love is lost!

Now you have the nerve to tell me you're sorry?
All love is lost!
You've got to be out of your motherfucking mind!
All love is lost!
You never loved me, you never fucking did!
All love is lost!
Once you betrayed me that is the fucking end!
All love is lost!

I don't give a fuck 'bout what you do with your life
I don't give a fuck 'bout what you do with your life
I don't give a fuck 'bout what you do with your life
I don't give a fuck 'bout what you do with your life

I don't give a fuck about you, you can fucking die
I couldn't fucking care less when you fucking cry
My heart's so cold, you left a broken soul
You destroyed everything I thought was true
And now you talk shit cause I don't give a fuck
And now I'm long gone, focus on you
I don't care where you are, don't care what you do
You say you hate me? Cool, I fucking hate you
(Hate you!)

All love is lost!
All love is lost!
You never loved me, you never fucking did!
All love is lost!
Once you betrayed me that is the fucking end!
All love is lost!

You see you the kind of motherfucker with no honour
The kind of motherfucker with no loyalty
Motherfucker you can't trust
Cross me, and then you want another chance?

One strike and I don't care about your fucking life
You're not no friend to me, you're fucking dead to me
Don't give a fuck about the shit that you was going through
You did some shit to me that I could never do to you
'Cuase I'm not no fake champ, I'm not no punk bitch
You're lucky I ain't put your ass in some dark ditch
And now you want some type of sympathy from me now?
If you were stabbed on the floor I'd watch you bleed out

[Max Cavalera:]
H - is for the Hell I unleash
A - arise the Apocalypse
T - I am your Terror
E - destroy the Enemy

[Ice-T:]
People say I'm cold-hearted
Why?
Cause you fucked over me?
Cause you broke every promise to me?
Because you said you were my friend and then you stabbed me in my motherfucking...

All love is lost!
All love is lost!
All love is lost!
You never loved me, you never fucking did!
All love is lost!
Once you betrayed me that is the fucking end!
All love is lost!
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Old 08-26-2017, 08:46 PM
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However, today we have the lovely "No Fault Divorce"; brought in first in the great state of California. The one state with the highest number of affairs per capita, as well as breast implants. I can see why they instated it. It changed the rules of marriage completely. For the first time ever, those that want to be deceitful, harmful and corrupt may do so with no penalty, no financial loss and no shame. Easy out. I'll let you guys research the percentage of politicians who have cheated on their spouse. THEN you add in the Feminists. What better way to empower a women than allow her to just get up and walk out of a marriage without any financial loss than to instate "No fault divorce". No commitments ever!! And today, 69% of divorces are initiated by women. Go women!!! "
the definition of Irony: attempting to claim male bias, while referring to breast implants and the empowerment of women in the same paragraph.
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