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Old 10-23-2016, 10:55 AM
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I sincerely believe that there exists a large disparity of wages between men and women.
Gender, Occupation Choice and the Risk of Death at Work

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Women and men tend to work in different occupations... Our results suggest that women choose safer jobs than men.
CARPE DIEM: Male-Female Occupational Death Gap Is 13 to 1

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One other explanation for wage differentials could also be that men tend to work in higher-risk, less safe occupations, with a greater chance of injury or death (e.g. coal mining), at a higher rate than women, and are therefore compensated with higher wages for the greater exposure to risk (e.g. a window washer hanging off the top of the Sears tower washing windows outside 1,000 feet from the ground will make more than a window washer working inside the building.)
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If I were male I would strongly support wage parity for women in all industries.
Equal pay for equal work, we can all agree on that.
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If I were a woman..I will strongly support shared custody 50-50 right out of the gate at the breakdown of a relationship.

But then...we can all expect pigs to fly
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Old 10-23-2016, 11:19 AM
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Speaking of pigs. How are you doing Oink?
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If I were a woman..I will strongly support shared custody 50-50 right out of the gate at the breakdown of a relationship.

But then...we can all expect pigs to fly
I think most women would support it, why wouldn't they want what is best for the children. Most women could take that break from the kids to go out and socialize etc...
If they have legal aid, and they despise the guy then maybe some can not resist but to make the ex's life a little more expensive and difficult, but most I am sure would do 50/50 if both parents are in a situation to do it and it does not make the children's life too hard, would suck to spend a week with mom a block from school, then the other week with dad 2hrs drive from school and friends, but it depends on a lot of other things I guess.
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I think most women would support it, why wouldn't they want what is best for the children. Most women could take that break from the kids to go out and socialize etc...
If they have legal aid, and they despise the guy then maybe some can not resist but to make the ex's life a little more expensive and difficult, but most I am sure would do 50/50 if both parents are in a situation to do it and it does not make the children's life too hard, would suck to spend a week with mom a block from school, then the other week with dad 2hrs drive from school and friends, but it depends on a lot of other things I guess.
Most divorcing women do not support it (I don't have a stat)

The standard position of at least some feminist groups is that it is a strategy by men to impoverish women and they are against any presumption of shard custody.

Financially speaking women have no incentive to give up sole custody. Consider.

1 - via spousal support they get PAID to raise the children (above and beyond anything child support and S7 expenses). The "salary" they get is based on their ex-husband income. Taxable (but you have such low income and everything else is tax-free so this is effectively taxed at such a a low rate becase you get 20000$ of tax-free credit) so in most cases TAX-FREE

2 - They get double the tax benefits which comes up to more than 10 thousands of dollars per year tax-free

3 - The father pays the majority of expenses of the child via S7 including daycare. (once again tax free)

4 - The father pays you child support. (once again tax free)

5 - You get the "celebrated" rank of "single mother" like you are "raising the kids alone" when in reality you have full support of the state and privatized welfare of your ex-wife.

6 - You get 50% of your weekends off anyways - as much as the dad (who really wants to go out every weekday?). And if you want to go out and bang random guys on weeknights you can get a babysitter or a family member do it and nobody can say a thing.

7 - Since you don't have to have a job , you can travel as much as you want and you have custody so as long as you have a "care" arrangements you can do what you want.

8 - let's not forget you can get remarried and get the support of the new guy and keep the support of the old guy

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There are pre-nuptial as well as post-nuptial agreements in Canada - check CanLII for samples.
There are no prenups in Canada than can effectively protect you from family law.

You cannot have a prenup that doesn't do the division of property, that excludes spousal support, nor excludes child support.

I can't imagine what kind of prenup you could write that would actually protect you here because you could easily give MORE away in a prenup.

There are no way two consenting adults can get into a relationship on the terms that they both agree upon. The state has decided it will impose it's own standards on the relationship.

I believe there is no other situation where two consenting parties are forbidden from arranging a contract as they see fit (assuming it only impacts them).

I wonder if theoretically if you had an agreement with a prostitute to live with you, could she eventually came alimony from you if she lived with you... (its not actually possible now because purchasing the service is illegal).
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...because then they won't get table amount CS

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I think most women would support it, why wouldn't they want what is best for the children. Most women could take that break from the kids to go out and socialize etc...
If they have legal aid, and they despise the guy then maybe some can not resist but to make the ex's life a little more expensive and difficult, but most I am sure would do 50/50 if both parents are in a situation to do it and it does not make the children's life too hard, would suck to spend a week with mom a block from school, then the other week with dad 2hrs drive from school and friends, but it depends on a lot of other things I guess.
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There are no prenups in Canada than can effectively protect you from family law.

You cannot have a prenup that doesn't do the division of property, that excludes spousal support, nor excludes child support.

I can't imagine what kind of prenup you could write that would actually protect you here because you could easily give MORE away in a prenup.

There are no way two consenting adults can get into a relationship on the terms that they both agree upon. The state has decided it will impose it's own standards on the relationship.

I believe there is no other situation where two consenting parties are forbidden from arranging a contract as they see fit (assuming it only impacts them).

I wonder if theoretically if you had an agreement with a prostitute to live with you, could she eventually came alimony from you if she lived with you... (its not actually possible now because purchasing the service is illegal).
Theoretically speaking, a prostitute is in the business of making money, so if you let her live with you and continue to "work on the side" then you very well might be able to strike a deal. He/she would only want to make sure that your cohab didn't interrupt with his/her stream of revenue.
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Speaking of pigs. How are you doing Oink?
Juicy comment for sure. I have had my suspicions too.
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Really....how many times have we read it from posters who said their wives refused to go back to work after kid was of school age? Point here....once you are married, it's hard to win the argument when a wife decides she doesn't want to go back to work
But we're hearing from those men at the moment when they realize that they have to pay a lot of support, and they're mad and trying to find a way in which this is someone else's fault - so the story becomes "my wife refused to get a job! She insisted on staying home!". These situations exist because both parties go along with it - either there was never any real disagreement at the time about one party staying home (it's only in hindsight that the story becomes "she refused to work!") or the husband went along with the situation rather than rock the boat, in which case he created the problem for himself.
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