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View Poll Results: Was the long gun registry a good idea?
Yes, It was/am in favour of it. 9 50.00%
No. I was/am against it. 4 22.22%
Undecided. I do not know. 1 5.56%
It was a good idea conceptually, but poorly executed. 4 22.22%
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Old 12-22-2012, 02:25 PM
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Personally I prefer the sound of the judges gavel......
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I have no problem with a basic rifle, and you should be able to hunt, target shoot, and if necessary defend your home with a basic bolt action rifle with a small magazine.

There is no reason why a gun shouldn't be registered and licensed. We do it with our cars, and no one takes your car away unless you default on the payments, it is unsafe, or you recklessly kill someone.

The problem with unregistered firearms is that people can resell them to anyone out of the trunk of their car without any idea if the person is a criminal, or has emotional problems, or mental issues. And people do sell them like this.

Years ago when I was a teen, my father, who was a violent alcoholic, bought a shotgun at a flea market. One night when when I wasn't home but 8 year old (at the time) nephew was staying, my father was drunk, pulled out the shotgun and started threatening my mother. My nephew intervened, ran between them and pushed my drunken father to the floor. Noone was hurt, but you can just imagine the possibilites.

Gun licensing and registration don't solve every problem, they just solve some problems, like the problem with my father. To own a gun you should be checked out and licensed. If you are a violent jackass, you don't get one. If you later show yourself to be a violent jackass you lose it. If you get a gun and sell it later, you need to have it registered so that you can show that you didn't sell it to a violent jackass.

Meanwhile there is no legitimate reason to own an assault rifle any more than there is a legitimate reason to own a rocket-propelled grenade or a cruise missle.

I served in the militia in my teens, I worked as an armed guard while in college when I was in my 20s, I am not against guns. I know how fun they can be, I also know how awful they can be. They are a necessity in rural areas, but there is no need to own a machine gun to protect yourself from bears and wolverines.
I think Mess' post would transcend anyone's argument opposing the registry.
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Gun licensing and registration don't solve every problem, they just solve some problems, like the problem with my father. To own a gun you should be checked out and licensed. If you are a violent jackass, you don't get one..[/QUOTE]
Geesh I wish that was totally true. When I was married my ex wanted to get his FAC licence. He had assaults etc in his record. One of the questions on application was something about was there any relationship problems in the house or something like that. He put no (lie) and told me that if I was interviewed at all and said anything different he would make sure I regretted it. It took a long time for him to get it as he was red-flagged for violence but in the end, he got it.

Did I ever have one of his guns pointed at me, you bet I did. Did the police do anything about it, nope. It was my word against his and the police in the town I lived in were not that great. I went to them to report a domestic violence incident and I showed them the bruises on my neck where he strangled me. They asked if there were witness, i said no, they asked if he would admit it, i said probably not. They refused to do anything as there were too many women who would want the charges pressed but when it came to court they changed their mind. This was back in 1987ish.

I can understand having guns on farms to protect livestock or to kill groundhogs etc. When you live in a city or town, why does one need a gun? If you like to target practice then maybe the shooting ranges should have a rental program where for a fee you get the gun, ammo and time on the range.
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As a gun owner and hunter myself I see nothing wrong with possessing a firearm. My 4 sons hunt as does my ex husband. I've had my license since 1993. My children grew up with all kinds of guns in the house as my ex husband taught the Hunter Safety Course for 15 years. We've put police officers through the course, natives, and young hunters also.

One of the main reasons hunters are so against the Long Gun Registry is more due to the fact that it's illegal guns entering Canada "handguns" "assault guns" "assaul rifles" and the likes.

My ex was angry at me when I left him and he called the police and the gun registry and told them I threatened to kill him. An officer came over to my house and I had to show him my license, registration, PAL, outdoor card and he did take my shotgun until it was proven that I was not unstable, on drugs, had mental issues ect. The ministry sent me a medical form I had to take to my physician proving I was not disturbed or on any kinds of illegal drugs. He was livid, saying it was a waste of his time, the police and the ministries time.

I did get an apology from the Police and the Ministry but they had a job to do and they did it well. My ex is the one who cried wolf for no reason and they wrote in their report what he did. Careful what you wish for.
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As a gun owner and hunter myself I see nothing wrong with possessing a firearm. My 4 sons hunt as does my ex husband. I've had my license since 1993. My children grew up with all kinds of guns in the house as my ex husband taught the Hunter Safety Course for 15 years. We've put police officers through the course, natives, and young hunters also.

One of the main reasons hunters are so against the Long Gun Registry is more due to the fact that it's illegal guns entering Canada "handguns" "assault guns" "assaul rifles" and the likes.

My ex was angry at me when I left him and he called the police and the gun registry and told them I threatened to kill him. An officer came over to my house and I had to show him my license, registration, PAL, outdoor card and he did take my shotgun until it was proven that I was not unstable, on drugs, had mental issues ect. The ministry sent me a medical form I had to take to my physician proving I was not disturbed or on any kinds of illegal drugs. He was livid, saying it was a waste of his time, the police and the ministries time.

I did get an apology from the Police and the Ministry but they had a job to do and they did it well. My ex is the one who cried wolf for no reason and they wrote in their report what he did. Careful what you wish for.
who should be careful what they wish for??
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I'm totally against guns unless it is to protect livestock or for use by police.

I do realize there are some people who like to participate in target shooting. That's fine. I'm not against gun ownership for recreational use but people should have to lock their guns up at the gun armory. Unless you live in a rural place where you are too far away from law enforcement to get someone out to protect you, or you need to protect farm animals from wolves/bears, there is really no logical reason why someone should have guns at their home.

We should be proud that we aren't like Americans with a silly Amendment giving us the right to have assault riffles. I think of those in-breds, like people from the movie "Deliverance" owning these guns. Makes me shudder.
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I'm totally against guns unless it is to protect livestock or for use by police.

I do realize there are some people who like to participate in target shooting. That's fine. I'm not against gun ownership for recreational use but people should have to lock their guns up at the gun armory. Unless you live in a rural place where you are too far away from law enforcement to get someone out to protect you, or you need to protect farm animals from wolves/bears, there is really no logical reason why someone should have guns at their home.

We should be proud that we aren't like Americans with a silly Amendment giving us the right to have assault riffles. I think of those in-breds, like people from the movie "Deliverance" owning these guns. Makes me shudder.
I agree with you 100%. Guns are not toys, they are things that can kill. Accidents can happen and when they do, its usually tragic. Not saying that all gun owners are irresponsible but they are not all responsible either.
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Speaking to the recent events in Newtown...

All the guns used in the mass shooting were legally registered and owned by Mom...so it's frustrating to hear gun registry proponents claim that a registry would help prevent these events. Thus I'm against the registry..not including the financial waste it was as well.

What would have helped prevent that event is if Mom didn't decide to pull her personality-disorder son out of school to homeschool him instead. The school system that has more tools available to help such kids versus gun-nut Mom. Who apparently thought it was a good idea to keep her stash of guns in the household with her son who had such issues and apparently could get access to them.
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:33 PM
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People shouldn't be allowed to keep their guns in their homes, unless they live in an isolated rural area. If guns and other weapons were stored in an armory it would solve alot of problems. Heck if you want to go to a target range and shoot off big bazookas that would be ok - just so long as your toy was stored in armory before you left the range.
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:23 PM
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Move to Mexico where you can live in a compound and be one of the "good ol boys"
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